Hindustan Times (Delhi)

India is 5th largest investor in science: Vijayragha­van

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KVijayragh­avan, principal scientific adviser to the government of India, and Sir Mark Walport, chief executive of UK Research and Innovation (UKRI), spoke to

and explained why the future of research and innovation depends on internatio­nal collaborat­ions. Excerpts:

Anonna Dutt

their research investment, so you will see an exponentia­l increase there.

The government increase would be more linear, but that too will be exponentia­l in a new area – investment in research in our state university system.

Also, there are industries like the IT sector and big multinatio­nals that are investing in research, but that does not get reflected in our research budget.

The UK plans to bring its councils under one umbrella to promote multi-disciplina­ry research. Does India have similar plans?

There is a historical value in the separation. Isolation of some kind allows you to get deep domain expertise, and from the point of the scientific investment, there are multiple places to shop.

One shouldn’t throw those positive values with an integrativ­e mechanism... I think we should play out the synergy for a few years and see how it works to get the answer to what level of formal integratio­n is needed.

One size doesn’t fit all. We have a flourishin­g system even under the different research councils, but for the United Kingdom

(UK), it was felt that the unified body was the right answer. Also, we are not the only funders in the system.

KVR: MW:

Some plurality in funding system is quite important.

Is research more innovation­centric now?

I would not look at science, technology and innovation as a linearity. The integratio­n and interactio­ns between what are the problems that need a solution and what are the solutions in search of a problem, where does discovery take you, and how does that integrate with the problems and solutions, are exciting. And facilitati­ng that interactio­n is what all government missions are about.

KVR: MW:

There is another issue. The transmissi­on mechanism between academia and business is one that we need strengthen­ed. There has to be more permeabili­ty in career to move between academia and industry.

What are the focus areas for research for India and the UK?

Almost everywhere in the world, there are four priority research areas. Clean growth focusing on changing the way we produce energy and food, and transformi­ng constructi­on.

The second is healthy ageing, research now has to focus on removing the diseases of old age and living longer and healthier lives. Then we look at the future of mobility. And artificial intelligen­ce and data economy.

MW:

 ?? MINT FILE ?? K Vijayragha­van
MINT FILE K Vijayragha­van
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GETTY IMAGES Sir Mark Walport

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