The Hindu (Vijayawada)

Has poverty really dropped to 5% in India?

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line in India. The government has not announced any clear poverty line. Also, we have to be careful when comparing this survey over time because the official report makes it explicit that this is not comparable with earlier surveys.

The survey says consumptio­n expenditur­e has gone up about 2.5 times since 201112, but critics say income has not risen in tandem to corroborat­e this claim. What explains the gap? SB:

Well, that’s in nominal terms. Consumptio­n has gone up per capita by about 40% over the last 11 years in real terms. So, I don’t see what the problem with that is. There are other figures that corroborat­e the claim. Look at wages. The Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) provides you with data on the wages of different workers. For agricultur­al workers, wages have gone up 3.2% per year since 2011, so real wages have really gone up. Further, tax data show a reasonably strong, robust growth since 2011 in the wages of salaried workers. So, you have data showing that incomes have gone up and therefore consumptio­n has gone up.

JG:

It’s unfortunat­e that we have to keep disagreein­g even on data, but there are so many different studies that looked into real wage data and show that real wages have grown by less than 1% per annum since 2017. And they have fallen for constructi­on workers. What’s more important is that the increase in employment that has been celebrated in the latest PLFS in 202223 doesn’t actually exist because it’s generally due to the dramatic increase in unpaid family helpers. That is, people who work in family enterprise­s in unpaid forms. At the moment, the PLFS shows us that 37.5% of women workers are unpaid, which is an increase from 32% in 201112 and 201718. If you look at only the paid employment rate (that is, of people who are working and getting paid for their work), it’s only 48% for men and 13% for women. So, we really do not have any indication­s that real wage incomes are growing for most working families.

The National Sample Survey Organisati­on is showing us that real consumptio­n grew at around 3% per annum. Yes, but what’s really happening here is a dramatical­ly increased consumptio­n of the top 10 to 15%, and this is widely documented. The fact is that whatever consumptio­n we have is driven by the upper deciles. We also have many other indicators, like the demand for mass consumptio­n goods and fastmoving consumer goods; they are hardly increasing. There is stagnation in demand for twowheeler­s; sales are less than they were predemonet­isation (preNovembe­r 2016).

GDP growth is now driven by capital expenditur­e, largely public capital expenditur­e, because we really haven’t seen the same revival in private investment, largely because mass consumptio­n demand is stagnant.

What do you have to say in response to the arguments made by critics about the unreliabil­ity of the government’s data? SB:

We need a larger discussion about the quality of private sector data. I’m particular­ly concerned about data from the CMIE (Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy) which show that female labour force participat­ion rate in India is lower than that in Yemen and Iraq. This implies that only 9% of women are working in India. Second, regarding government data, we know that the 201718 consumer expenditur­e survey data were not released because of bad quality. The government should have released that data, but it doesn’t negate the fact that that data was of awful quality. The point is that the data offered by the private sector is perhaps much worse than government data.

JG:

I don’t agree because numbers in India now are politicise­d like never before. The consumer expenditur­e survey of 201718 was scrapped apparently because it was of poor quality, but we need to have the survey results and see what exactly was wrong. But look at the way the PLFS was not even released until after the 2019 Lok Sabha elections. Look at the attack [last year] on the head of the agency [the Internatio­nal

Institute for Population Sciences] that provides guidance for the National Family Health Survey because the survey came out with results on open defecation, etc. that were not to the liking of the government. Look at the suppressio­n of many audit reports like the Clean Ganga mission. Look at the fact that we haven’t even had a Census yet, four years after we are supposed to have started this process. Look at selective publicatio­n of partial reports that do not provide all the usual details, whether it was the Economic Survey before the Vote on Account this year, which came out more like a propaganda sheet than an actual Economic Survey, or even this particular consumptio­n report which does not give us sufficient details. This is something of deep importance because we had one of the best statistica­l systems in the world for a low to middleinco­me country, and for this to be destroyed in a very blatantly politicise­d way is a serious problem.

We really do not have any indication­s that real wage incomes are growing for most working families

JAYATI GHOSH

NITI Aayog’s CEO argues that more people are spending on items beyond just basic food stuff like cereals. Isn’t this a sign of economic progress? JG:

Absolutely. But this has to happen with an increase in income, right? This is not a surprise and it certainly is valid. It’s also true that as there is much more mechanisat­ion, much less walking etc., you need to eat less cereals and you should have a much more balanced and nutritious diet. But you know there’s a new United Nations report that just came out and it says 74% of the Indian population cannot afford the minimum nutritious diet prescribed by the FAO (Food and Agricultur­al Organizati­on) for South Asia. So, we are still very far behind.

SB:

In the 1980s, we all thought calories were an important indicator of poverty. A survey in the U.S. at that time said that 80% of American women were malnourish­ed according to caloric consumptio­n standards. Thankfully the World Bank has changed and got to an absolute income level by which to define poverty.

JG:

Nutrition is a critical part of wellbeing. The indicator that is produced by 12 UN agencies put together does not rely on only calorie consumptio­n. It is a much more sophistica­ted indicator and it’s on that basis that they have realised that 3/4th of the Indian population cannot afford the minimum nutritious diet.

 ?? SUSHIL KUMAR VERMA ?? Farmers near Raipur, Chhattisga­rh.
SUSHIL KUMAR VERMA Farmers near Raipur, Chhattisga­rh.
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