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WHICH DIGITAL FLIGHT LOGBOOK TO USE?
We’ve been manually logging the flights of our 21-month-old, but think it’s time to go digital as he’s already reached 50 flights. Any suggestions on the best website/app to use?
I use flightmemory.com and have about 1,000 flights logged. It works well, although there’s been no update for years and no app. I was using flightstats.com for flight times, but I moved to my.flightradar24. com as it’s easier to use and not restricted (occasionally flightstats.com is). I pay a nominal annual fee for both services.
I would strongly recommend openflights. org. The main difference compared to sites like flightmemory.com is that it isn’t commercially focused, so it allows easy exporting of data (CSV format is easily read by Excel) should you ever want to use the data somewhere else. It also allows easy importing of CSV data, so if you’ve been recording information in Excel, it should be easy enough to switch, with minimal renaming/formatting of fields. But equally, it allows entry of information directly on the site.
Openflights.com also includes a few different map backgrounds, is fully zoomable and offers comprehensive stats by number of flights or distance for airline, aircraft, airport and class.
I highly recommend Flightdiary – it’s now part of flightradar24 so a lot of the data syncs automatically across. Also, it has an excellent visual display of all your information (including printable map) and a support service that allows you to
request new airports/airlines to be added. It even has some of the dirt airstrips in Kenya included!
From 1975 I used a manual log, which came from Ian Allan books. My first flight recorded was VC8 LHR MME on British Midland, although I had flown before that as a child (BOAC Junior Jet Club Log Book) and youth, but could not recall flight numbers. Similarly, a lot of my cabin-crew days in the 80s are not included as I misplaced my logbooks.
Over a course of many weekends, I uploaded the lot onto my flight diary at my.flightradar24.com, which works really well for what I need. This next trip will see my 1,100th flight logged, it’s interesting to look at the map and go through the log to see where I have been and on what frightening types of aircraft/airlines.
Electronic flight logs are all well and good, but I’d go for an old-fashioned pen and book. I’ve had mine since 1979 and it’s a wealth of information, from date, aircraft and seat to reg no, route, additional notes and more. I tried an online version, but I can’t recall its name so I’m unable to retrieve the data – luckily I have it all in my hard copy logbook.
My boys also had one from Lufthansa, which the captain would sign for them so they have a nice record of their flights.
And my final point, it’s such a shame to lose the art of writing as we go all electronic. I still send handwritten invitations and thank-you cards, and
I still make paper notes in meetings.
Good to hear from another fellow Junior Jet Club member. Like INTHESANDPIT, I still have my details – first flight was on a BOAC DH Comet 4 in May 1959 from LHR to Tokyo, with stops in Beirut, Karachi, Delhi, Calcutta, Bangkok and Hong Kong, a near 24-hour journey. As a child, I always used to get the captains to fill in my logbook and on many occasions sat with them in the nose cone. Now, as that log is long since full, I have made my own Excel version on the laptop and fill in the details by using flightaware.com, which gives miles flown for each flight, is quite accurate and very useful.
Have you tried Jet Lovers Your Flight Club, jetlovers.com, yet? Using social media check-ins it automates some of the process. You can select your flight from the list, which pre-populates the aircraft reg, then you can define the purpose of the trip, crew, what cabin type and even input your seat number.
It then gives you interesting stats, such as most popular airport used, cabin type, longest route and so on. It also has a good GloVe visualisation of your travels. The site works well on a computer and is mobile friendly. I’ve not spotted an app yet.
I’ve taken a look at these various services, except jetlovers.com, which is based on social networks, and which I don’t want for all sort of reasons.
So, openflights.org: a basic service. Main advantage – importing! While it didn’t work from FlightMemory, very unfortunately, I could do it from TripIt, tripit.com, with limited success (basic data only; travel class wrong). So I’ll delete it as soon I have no more hope with the FlightMemory import.
I think flightmemory.com is still excellent, but a bit outdated. Only pdf exports available and inputting is as basic as with OpenFlights. For example, the only item that comes automatically is the airline once the flight number is entered. It does, however, have a “Journey” feature that allows the regrouping of some flights. Cost: US$55 for two years (one year is possible).
By far the best is my.flightradar24.com. Once you’ve entered a date and flight
number, the system does the rest, for example aircraft type and ID, route, times and so on. Tripit and CSV importing is available, while CSV exporting is also possible. And, for now at least, it is free.
After looking at the suggestions, I finally went with my.flightradar24.com. As SWISSDIVER mentioned, it’s by far the best and easy to input the data with just a few clicks per flight. Thanks again!
TOILETRYTASTIC! ➜ SKYHIGH
I stayed at the Radisson in Tokyo and Melliber Appart in Casablanca this year. I travel the world and was surprised to find the Rituals toiletries in Tokyo were sealed with a clear tape, while in Casablanca there was a seal that stated “do not use if broken”. I think all hotels should follow suit for safety and hygiene reasons, otherwise anyone could put anything into the toiletries.
You raise an interesting topic. I hope hotels don’t remix and reuse leftover toiletries. I did ask when I checked out, but got a bemused look from reception.
I am surprised that SKYHIGH is surprised – most five-star hotels provide sealed toiletries. I mainly stay in Hyatt, Marriott and Holiday Inn properties in AsiaPacific, and all these hotels provide toiletries in sealed packets.
I would much prefer a pump-action bottle for all this stuff rather than add tonnes of plastic waste to the world, not to mention all the products that are thrown away because they are in a partially used bottle.
I am not particularly worried about contamination – most of these products only go on your skin rather than into your body and most of them are immediately washed off. Unless the product in question is caustic, toxic or allergenic it is very unlikely to affect you unless you have a skin condition or an open wound. If you have a skin condition then you should probably use your own toiletries, and if you have an open wound you should be disinfecting it or wearing a waterproof dressing anyway (if you know what’s good for you).
I recently visited Malta and stayed in a fantastic Airbnb property in Bugibba, where a hospitable host made it a great value alternative. Anyway, arriving late at night with cabin luggage meant I went for my morning shower totally dependent on what was available in the bathroom, which was lots of little bottles of this and that, clearly amassed/ left by previous guests from all over the world.
Neither myself nor my travelling companions wanted to risk breaking up the collection, and opted to use the stuff from the already opened bottle of brown gloop, made by a high-end toiletry manufacturer. Safe to say, the priority definitely was the local supermarket to get normal shower gel – so the toiletry collection was added to by the end of the trip, and I’m still alive to tell the tale!
Incidentally, Penta Hotels has all its toiletries sealed in a clear plastic bag. A bag that could be reused to replace those nonsense airport security bags?
I’m more worried about hotel guests boiling their underwear in the kettle, which was exposed a while back.
I’m with IANFROMHKG on this, hotels seem to want to save by washing sheets every two days (now three in more and more places), but waste who knows how much by throwing out half-empty bottles, used soaps, barely used toilet rolls and mineral water in plastic bottles. I just hate this needless waste.
Used soaps are all recycled.
I’ve been lucky enough to stay in both four- and five-star hotels that mainly seal toiletries – including shampoo, conditioner and body lotion tubes – with a tamper-free tape. I must say, it’s to be expected with the price charged for the room/suite.
As to boiled water, I’m extra particular. I rinse all cups, mugs, glasses and spoons with boiling water since I don’t know how “clean” they are. I do this since housekeeping don’t have a clean supply of these items and they’re washed in the kitchen/bathroom, and I don’t really know how clean their dishtowel is. From a medical point of view, I only drink bottled mineral water and boiled bottled water, which actually tastes very different from boiled tap water.
LUGANOPIRATE, you’ll be surprised there are recycling plants in developing countries, although mainly in the cities. They may not have the means to recycle plastics coded 1 to 6, but they do recycle other bottles, paper, porcelain and so forth.
In Thailand all forms of bottles, drinks and food cans are collected and sold in rural areas. The ring pulls from drinks cans are also collected and given to hospitals to be made into prosthetic arms and legs, which they have been doing for the past 20 years.
I’m more worried about hotel guests boiling their underwear in the kettle, which was exposed a while back