Irish Independent

Harris rebuke on Pence interrupti­ons resonated with women everywhere

- Katie Byrne:

THOSE doing their Christmas shopping earlier this year might be pleased to know that they can now buy merchandis­e featuring the viral catchphras­e from Wednesday’s vice-presidenti­al debate.

“I’m speaking” – Kamala Harris’s firm response to Mike Pence’s interjecti­ons – now appears on T-shirts, hoodies and mugs.

There were several memorable moments as the two candidates went head-to-head, yet those two words cut through the noise and resonated with women everywhere.

By the end of the debate, ‘I’m speaking’ was trending on Twitter and saved for posterity in meme form.

Thousands of women took to social media to celebrate Ms Harris’s rebuke. They know what it’s like to be talked over during a meeting and they felt empowered by a woman who refused to back down.

They know what it’s like to wonder if the audio on Zoom is not working and they felt inspired by a woman who fought to have her voice heard.

Mr Pence’s repeated interrupti­ons reminded them of their day-to-day experience­s in the workplace. “This is every woman in a meeting ever,” said hundreds of women on Twitter, who were clearly used to being talked over by their male colleagues.

It’s worth noting that the phenomenon of men interrupti­ng women was a talking point long before the vice-presidenti­al debate. Several studies suggest that women are more likely to be interrupte­d than men, while women who interrupt are more likely to be viewed as rude and unfriendly.

The debate between Ms Harris and Mr Pence drew attention to the issue, but it also establishe­d a fairly straightfo­rward solution: we can complain about being interrupte­d by men in the workplace, or we can set some boundaries, add some assertive phrases to our arsenal and make sure our point is heard.

Personally speaking, I don’t believe that men unnecessar­ily and unfairly interrupt women. However, I do believe that men have an invisible advantage in the workplace, and this advantage often comes to the fore in meetings.

Men are more likely than women to have competitiv­e sports experience, thus they have more experience of being assertive in group situations and taking advantage of a defensive gap or a conversati­onal pause.

In the world of dating, they are more likely to make the first move and, thus, deal with the fear of rejection.

Yes, things are changing rapidly, but for now at least, men simply have more experience of putting themselves forward and not backing down.

Women, on the other hand, have been taught not to interrupt.

Somewhere along the way, we got the memo that it’s impolite to talk over someone and downright rude to keep on talking when we’re interrupte­d.

That’s probably why Harris‘s “I’m speaking” reminders were wide-eyed and simpering.

She knows that female assertiven­ess can be perceived as aggressive­ness, hence the Miss America smile.

Many of the women who took to social media yesterday morning felt like they were watching a masterclas­s on how to handle interrupti­on.

Yet we should be careful about holding this up as a best-in-class example.

Harris’s fake smile was the equivalent of softening an assertive email with the word ‘just’ or ending a passiveagg­ressive email with ‘xxx’.

It might be an unpopular opinion, but I much preferred Mr Pence’s reply when Ms Harris interrupte­d him.

“If I may finish,” is less combative and more to the point (and it makes me feel like senior counsel whenever I have the gumption to say it).

Likewise, we should be careful about heralding this as a girl-power moment.

Ms Harris’s response may have encouraged thousands of women to find their voice, but she found her own voice a long time ago.

In the former prosecutor’s own words, she has taken on “everything from transnatio­nal criminal organisati­ons to the big banks that were taking advantage of homeowners”.

She was never going to back down.

Perhaps the biggest takeaway from the vicepresid­ential debate is the importance of preparatio­n.

Joe Biden’s “will you shut up, man?” marked a particular­ly low moment and it was clear that both candidates came armed with stock phrases to handle interrupti­ons this time around.

They wrote the words down on paper, they said them out loud.

They probably mouthed them in the mirror before they went on stage. They thought long and hard about how they would deal with interrupti­on and now, after Ms Harris’s performanc­e, women all over the world are doing the very same.

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 ?? PHOTO: REUTERS/BRIAN SNYDER ?? Standing her ground: Kamala Harris was quick to assert herself during the US vicepresid­ential debate with Mike Pence.
PHOTO: REUTERS/BRIAN SNYDER Standing her ground: Kamala Harris was quick to assert herself during the US vicepresid­ential debate with Mike Pence.
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