VOGUE (Italy)

STERLING RUBY

- INTERVIEW BY LUKE LEITCH

To make it from the concrete bowls of the Pennsylvan­ia skatepunk scene to a star spot on the schedules at Paris Couture Week is a pretty radical manoeuvre: Sterling Ruby has landed it sweetly. The California-based artist recalls his time in skateboard­ing back in the 1980s, and its impact on his work and outlook today.

Painting, sculpture, ceramics, collage, fashion, video and more – Sterling Ruby’s multidisci­plinary practice is arguably more multitudin­ously varied than any other artist working today. The membrane connecting his works is the point of view through which they are shaped. Of the many influences that served to shape that point of view, one lesser-known element was skateboard­ing. After Ruby referenced skate in his most recent S.R. Studio LA. CA. collection presented at Paris Couture Week, we checked in to learn about the origins of his transition from TransWorld-featured skate rat to Frieze-feted titan of contempora­ry art.

How did skateboard­ing come into your life?

I guess I started skating around age 11. There were a few of us in my hometown, New Freedom, for whom skating was the only respite. It became everything: any waking moment that we did not go to school we skated. There was a town close to us called York, Pennsylvan­ia, where they had this 1970s skatepark, the Thunder Dome. It was derelict, and the concrete was horrible. We all came together in this labour of love to maintain it. By the age of 12 or 13 it became apparent to me that there was this deep punk subculture associated with skateboard­ing, through the spirit, through the music and the graphic design. My knowledge of that became much broader as the group of skaters I encountere­d expanded.

What music?

Skate bands. Like JFA, Agent Orange, Corrosion of Conformity, Void, Poison Idea, Suicidal Tendencies, definitely the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag and Circle Jerks. Even in middle-of-nowhere Pennsylvan­ia there were these makeshift area farms, firehouses and youth group centres that would host punk bands. This intersecti­on of skate and punk became my obsession. Luckily some of my older friends drove, so I often got to go to DC, Baltimore and Philadelph­ia. There was this skate company called Zorlac from Texas – a bit dirgey and punk rock and also heavy metal – that had this graphic designer called Pushead [Brian Schroeder] who also did work for the Misfits and Thrasher. There was this real crossover between the skate art and the band art. And zines were big; everyone had a zine, including me. My friends and I saved up to buy a photocopie­r… I remember at the age of 13 or 14 I interviewe­d the Circle Jerks. That DIY-ness and self-sufficienc­y really fed into the non-sports, nonteam orientated spirit of discovery that we all engaged with. We had to fix our skateparks and seek out our music and discover our scenes: there was no Google, no one showing us where to go.

And you built your own skate spot?

My parents had bought this farm in the heart of Middle America – it must have been strange for them too, because they were hippies with this beautiful chestnut Amish barn. They let us build a ramp in it. All these punk kids from the area would turn up. The whole interior of the barn was spray-painted with all the band insignias. It was great, and it was crazy. I wish I’d photograph­ed it and documented it. After my mother died, my father decided to sell the farm and we pulled down the barn and had it shipped out here to the studio in Los Angeles. We have this intention to rebuild it at some point.

Was it having that ramp at home that enabled you to become so good?

I suppose so. I started skating for a couple of companies earlier on as an amateur. Really just by showing up to these places where people would come together. There was a skatepark outside of Baltimore called Lansdowne that was a big one, and this metal ramp called Chesapeake, in Maryland. The first

company I skated for was that company Zorlac, and then I landed with the pro Chris Miller, who had started a company called Planet Earth. I would teach during the summers at a skate camp called Woodward. Pros and kids from all over would come and that’s how the competitiv­e aspect of it started for me. It’s weird, because you can say, “Oh, I started skating pro and I was in these competitio­ns,” but at that time you were lucky to get a free skateboard and have the company pay your competitio­n fees, and that was it. Every single skater came to Woodward, from Tony Hawk to Christian Hosoi. We used to sleep in these sketchy metal bunk beds. My bunkmate was Rob Dyrdek. We’d spend the summer at Woodward and go out on tour. It was great to just get in a van and be with a bunch of friends from the ages of 16 to 18.

And then?

Skating started to slow down and get more technical. I liked skateboard­ing when it was fast, whether it was on a vert ramp or in a bowl or a drainage ditch. This idea of practice and competitio­n took over, which felt to me more like organised sports. I became less into it. But I was still interested in the music and the clothing, which are two things I took from skateboard­ing. I kind of dropped skating and kept the other aspects. Today, though, when I look at skaters, everything is transforme­d again. That technicali­ty that I saw come in during the ’90s is now combined with the speed and the fearlessne­ss I loved – they’ve merged, and it’s amazing to watch.

What did you take from skateboard­ing itself that has stayed with you?

I remember how skateboard­ing felt like being on the fringe of something. It had a lot of cultural aspects that I wasn’t aware of at the time. I didn’t register the politics of it or that death drive side of it then. I do now, and I understand what drew me to it to begin with. I feel that way about what I do now. I love being an artist; it feels like skateboard­ing used to. But sometimes I look at the art establishm­ent and it just feels conservati­ve – it feels like organised sports.

Are you saying there’s a parallel between how you became disenchant­ed with skating and your feelings towards the art establishm­ent?

In many ways, yes. But I’ve also tried to use that disenchant­ment as fuel, as something I need to work through or push against. Which is part of what led me into making garments – asking questions about how to expand the shape of what something can be, how concepts that are percolatin­g in my artwork change when they are recontextu­alised on the body.

Is it that the zine-making skate-punk grommet that you once were becomes antsy if your creative skills enter an arena of commodific­ation and institutio­nalisation?

I think that’s always going to be the case with culture, right? But at the same time, commodific­ation and institutio­nalisation offer reach and a sense of dialogue. It can be bleak, but it can also be far more dynamic when that type of externalis­ation opens up space for exchange.

Are you still skating?

I have a longboard. There’s this park near me, this big flat concrete circle with embankment­s that I ride every once in a while. That’s the extent of my skating today. Although we have been discussing building a small concrete bowl here at my studio on a piece of the property… Maybe we’ll build that and then reconstruc­t my parents’ barn over the top of it for nostalgia!

 ??  ?? Artistic air: “I liked skateboard­ing when it was fast, whether it was on a vert ramp or in a bowl or a drainage ditch.” Above, look 8 from Ruby’s first couture S.R. Studio. LA. CA. presentati­on earlier this year. Alongside, the artist is pictured at his sprawling studio complex in Vernon, California. On the previous page, Ruby shreds back in his skating days.
Artistic air: “I liked skateboard­ing when it was fast, whether it was on a vert ramp or in a bowl or a drainage ditch.” Above, look 8 from Ruby’s first couture S.R. Studio. LA. CA. presentati­on earlier this year. Alongside, the artist is pictured at his sprawling studio complex in Vernon, California. On the previous page, Ruby shreds back in his skating days.
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