Sunday Star-Times

A legal revolution changing the industry

- CATHERINE HARRIS

AChristchu­rch lawyer believes fellow profession­als who work in the cloud like he does, will eventually undercut the rest of a very traditiona­l industry.

John Shingleton is the founder of Online Laywers NZ, a firm which eschews the usual formality of seeing a lawyer, or the overheads of having an office and support staff.

He was previously a managing partner of a mid-sized law firm and understood the heavy costs entailed in running a law firm.

‘‘For a long time as lawyers we’ve had a privileged position.

‘‘I can remember my parents attitude, which was that to go and see the solicitor meant dress up nicely, and go and see that solicitor in the office.

‘‘But the sense I get particular­ly with the millennial generation is, it doesn’t wash with them anymore. They want a different value propositio­n.

‘‘I suppose I had a Richard Branson moment where I thought there might be another way of doing it.’’

Shingleton began re-thinking the way he worked after hearing one too many comments about the difference between his profession and the rest of the world.

‘‘Once you’ve heard the jokes many times, you start detecting an undercurre­nt, and the message that was being sent to me by friends and clients was, ’you guys are not really following what the rest of the world is doing in delivering more effective, streamline­d services’.’’

Today he often uses some of Christchur­ch’s many shared working spaces, and meets clients at their business, or a cafe, if the matter’s not too private.

‘‘By and large people are comfortabl­e with that,’’ he says. His younger clients particular­ly liked it. ‘‘They’re all Uber-ised now.’’

Working in the cloud refers to software and services which operate through the internet instead of locally through a computer.

One of the main advantages is that people can access informatio­n on any device which has an internet connection, including personal and tablet computers and smartphone­s, which means documents can be stored.

Documents are shared securely, allowing clients to see how their case is progressin­g.

Video-conferenci­ng out-of-town clients was a god-send. ’’I think people still like to see a human face and body language. Sometimes the hidden message in a conversati­on can be missed.’’

Shingleton specialise­s in commercial, employment and health and safety law, and outsources to colleagues on issues outside of his areas of expertise. He hopes that eventually he might have a national business of similarly-minded lawyers.

The big revolution, he says, is in the way lawyers charge, which has traditiona­lly by the hour, unlike most of the business world, which gives a quote.

‘‘At the moment many people have no idea what they will be charged, after they have engaged a lawyer,’’ he says.

By reducing his costs, ‘‘I’ve estimated I’m able to offer the same quality that I offered at a senior partner in a traditiona­l law firm at about 15 per cent less’’.

Shingleton is sure that he will be followed by others and that ultimately it will change the profession.

‘‘The way we are working will mean that quality legal services will be more affordable, particular­ly for small to medium sized businesses, who are regularly charged at the same rate as large organisati­ons.’’

Personally, he believes the change has given him a healthier work-life balance.

‘‘People say to me, are you happy and I say, I’m loving it, because suddenly I’m out of the mould that I used to be.

‘‘There is an issue of depression and stress within the legal profession.

‘‘There are a lot of burnt out lawyers - very good people who have dedicated their lives to a service of the law for clients. The Law Society is addressing it.’’

Many people have no idea what they will be charged after they engage a lawyer.

 ?? CAMERON BURNELL/FAIRFAX NZ ?? John Shingleton believes the legal profession needs to move with the times or die.
CAMERON BURNELL/FAIRFAX NZ John Shingleton believes the legal profession needs to move with the times or die.

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