The New Zealand Herald

Soul Machines takes swipe at critic of female AI avatars

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Soul Machines Chairman Greg Cross has responded to criticism from broadcaste­r Mike Hosking, who pointed out that all the AI avatars launched recently — ANZ’s Jamie, Air NZ’s Sophie, Mercedes-Benz’s Sarah and Vodafone’s Kiri (made by Soul Machines rival FaceMe) — have something in common.

“Do you spot the problem? They’re all women,” said Hosking.

“We have created male digital assistants,” Cross said, pointing out “Will,” an AI commission­ed by Vector. The age, sex and other facets of an avatar are ultimately a decision for clients, he said.

But he added: “As time goes by I think it will evolve and customers will get to choose if they talk to a male or female or someone of the same ethnicity.”

Cross’s comments came as Soul Machines updated on a multi-million funding effort.

The original backers of Siri and Auckland University’s commercial­isation arm are among the backers of Soul Machines’ US$20 million ($30.6m) Series B funding round.

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intelligen­t avatars, including ANZ’s “Jamie,” Air New Zealand’s “Sophie” and Mercedes Benz’s “Sarah” who can read emotions and answer customer queries.

Cross said the Series B round won’t close until the new year. It could end up raising more than $US20m, Cross says. He won’t talk about a postmoney valuation at this point.

Auckland University’s Uniservice­s is chipping $2m into the round.

Uniservice­s already holds a 17 per cent stake in Soul Machines via the shares it received for transferri­ng its intellectu­al property to the start-up when it was originally spun out of intelligen­t avatar research conducted at Auckland University by “Baby X” creator Dr Mark Sagar.

Cross says Uniservice­s’ latest support, via its Auckland Investors Fund, is purely financial. Soul Machines retains full rights to Sagar’s research.

But yesterday he said: “New Zealand needs more technology companies based on deep research and Intellectu­al Property. The University of Auckland and UniService­s are making a massive contributi­on to developing the ecosystem required to create more companies like us.”

Soul Machines earlier announced that Mercedes Benz maker Daimler AG is backing its Series B round to the tune of US$7m. Daimler has also emerged as a major earlier customer for Soul Machines.

Horizon Ventures has also supported the Series B round. The venture capital firm also participat­ed in Soul Machines’ Series A round in mid-2016.

Cross won’t put a dollar value on Horizon’s backing but says it’s a huge endorsemen­t given Horizon’s track record in artificial intelligen­ce investment­s. It put money into Siri before it was bought by Apple and DeepMind before it was purchased by Google.

The chairman said Soul Machines now has 82 staff. He would not comment on revenue. Soul Machines was still very much in an investment and growth phase he said.

Asked what set Soul Machines apart from the small army of digital assistant startups, Cross said his company differs from other AI research companies in that it has developed cognitive models to simulate human thought processes exemplifie­d by its emotionall­y responsive digital avatars. That differs from deep learning AI, where a network of processes are built to replicate a brain in the way it analyses data.

Cross said he believes cognitive models are going to be a central element of the wider AI standard. Because the technology gets smarter the more it’s used, Soul Machines expects its value will track that trend, with Cross pointing to DeepMind and Siri as examples.

“We have no question in our minds that we have that potential to be valued as some of those $1 billion-plus companies,” he said.

Cross described himself and Sagar as partners in Soul Machines. He handles the business side while the Auckland University alumnus took care of the technology. Cross was also chairman of wireless charging company Power-by-Proxi, bought by Apple last year in a $100m+ deal.

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Greg Cross insists not all avatars are female but the decision lies with clients.

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