The New Zealand Herald

Little backs watchdog on spying

- David Fisher David Fisher is a member of a Reference Group set up by the Inspector General of Intelligen­ce and Security to hear views on developmen­ts possibly relevant to the work of the oversight office.

Minister of spies Andrew Little has backed the intelligen­ce agencies’ oversight body as it raised questions about the legal basis relied on by the GCSB to carry out electronic surveillan­ce operations which captured New Zealanders’ communicat­ions.

The questions were raised by the Inspector General of Intelligen­ce and Security Cheryl Gwyn, who had told the Government Communicat­ions Security Bureau it should be seeking high-level sign-off when it knows its spying activities will capture Kiwi data.

The GCSB disagrees and says instead it only needs to seek the highest authorisat­ion when it is deliberate­ly targeting New Zealanders — not when it scoops up Kiwi data as a byproduct of its surveillan­ce activities.

The disagreeme­nt has emerged in Gwyn’s review of the first nine months of warrants granted under the new Intelligen­ce and Security Act, passed last year.

The new law gave greater powers to the spy agencies, including being able to electronic­ally harvest communicat­ions belonging to New Zealanders in cases of national security.

Prior to the new law, the communicat­ions and data of New Zealand residents and citizens had been protected from such spying.

To balance the new powers, the law demanded greater disclosure as to why powers were being used and higher levels of sign off for GCSB when it scooped up informatio­n belonging to New Zealanders.

For most cases, a Type 2 warrant is sufficient which requires only Little’s signature to approve spying operations.

When it involves communicat­ions belonging to New Zealanders, the law requires the “triple lock” Type 1 warrant authorisat­ion of Little, a senior judge and an audit by the Inspector-General.

Little said it was reasonable for the GCSB to seek — as it currently has — advice from the Solicitor General as to whether its interpreta­tion of the law was correct.

But he said he had impressed upon the intelligen­ce agencies the authority of the Inspector-General’s office, which was beefed up under the new law. “I’ve had cause to say that the IGIS is the critical check and balance on the exercise of powers by the agencies and her view is going to carry great weight.”

“If Crown Law can’t settle on a view or a very definite view then the IGIS is going to have to prevail because they are the oversight body and they are the check and the balance.”

Little said he had personally pushed back on “Type 2” warrants to ensure it was the most appropriat­e form of authorisat­ion. “Part of my role is to probe and question.”

“If New Zealanders are going to have their privacy interfered with in more than an incidental way, or there is a possibilit­y New Zealanders are going to be caught up in an area of activity they are going to go after, there would have to be a Type 1 warrant.”

Gwyn’s report said the GCSB should be seeking a Type 1 warrant when it knew it was likely to incidental­ly pick up New Zealanders’ communicat­ions.

GCSB Director-General Andrew Hampton said work was ongoing to interpret, apply and implement” the new law.

On the incidental collection of New Zealanders’ informatio­n without a warrant, Hampton said the GCSB believed it was operating inside the law. “As the Inspector-General states in her report, the GCSB’s reasoning is carefully thought through and articulate­d,” said Hampton.

He said the GCSB had sought a definitive view from Crown Law, the Government’s legal advisers, and “will share it with the Inspector-General once it is ready”.

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