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Three New Zealand sculptors at different stages of their careers

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“IF I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING, I JUST MAKE IT. I WRITE THE SCRIPT.”

THE HEAVYWEIGH­T Paul Dibble

A phone interview with monumental sculptor Paul Dibble, who apparently stands at about 2m tall, seems most unsatisfac­tory. It would be far more interestin­g to watch him tame fire and liquify bronze while creating one of his large-scale (some are more than 4m tall) sculptures in his Palmerston North foundry.

But according to Paul, sometimes you “just have to make it up”. Which is what he says he does when creating one of his gargantuan bronze kowhai.

Perhaps one is so heavy it collapses and shatters. Or he destroys it himself because he’s unhappy with how it’s turned out.

“Just the other day I chopped up a 2m-long work that I’ll eventually rebuild. A lot of my work is problem-solving.”

There’s a no-nonsense, no-fuss air to Paul. He calls himself a “Kiwi boy in his bones”, who looks for inspiratio­n from this place — the land, the birds, the culture.

A farmer’s son from the Hauraki Plains, Paul was no stranger to making stuff, even before he studied at Elam School of Fine Arts in the 1960s.

“We built canoes, huts, sheds, cow sheds, even the odd terrible house. People just got on with it in those days.”

His parents, he says, were “sympatheti­c to art”. His mother’s cousin was renowned artist Garth Tapper, who was a lecturer in painting at Elam when Paul studied there.

Drawn to the physical presence of the three-dimensiona­l form, Paul took to sculpture, although at that time he never really thought about what he would end up doing after art school.

He started out making sculptures in a tin shed at the end of his garden in the 1970s and is now one of New Zealand’s most celebrated and well-known sculptors, who works mostly in bronze and corten steel, which has a distinctiv­e weathered look. He is most recognised for his work The Southern Stand (2006), the striking New Zealand War Memorial in Hyde Park, London.

At this year’s Auckland Art Fair, he revisits the huia and the golden kowhai.

“I think the kowhai is remarkable because there’s very little colour in the bush, and it’s this burst of gold.” Paul used 24-carat gold over bronze to highlight the flower.

Speaking of materials, Paul goes through plenty of bronze a year, about $200,000 worth imported from Australia in the form of ingots. He prefers creating larger-scale works, but admits that comes with more risk. “It’s dangerous work. There are lots of accidents, burns and cuts. The bronze has to be heated to 1100 degrees, you certainly wouldn’t want a tonne of bronze falling on you.”

In his foundry he is assisted by a team of industrial engineers and his wife, Fran — an expert in welding and ceramic shelling and a lecturer in biochemist­ry and molecular biology.

At 75, Paul shows no signs of slowing down creatively. “It’s fun work. We’re not held back by money now, so if I want to make something, I just make it. I write the script.”

THE ORIGINAL Francis Upritchard

Best known for her quirky figurative sculptures with expressive bodily gestures, often painted brightly and dressed in handmade clothing, wigs and gaudy glasses, Francis Upritchard has created a never-quite-seen-before aesthetic in sculpture.

Born in 1976 in New Plymouth as one of six siblings, Francis went on to study fine art at Ilam School of Fine Arts in Christchur­ch, but has been based in London since 1998, where she resides with her designer husband Martino Gamper. She was the winner of the Walters Prize in 2006 and in 2009 she exhibited at the Venice Biennale along with painter Judy Millar. Currently exhibiting at Ivan Anthony Gallery in Auckland, with her show ‘Centaurs and Sea Creatures’, Francis’ works will appear at this year’s Art Fair with the same gallery.

You often work with steel, foil armature, modelling material, fabric and paint. What new materials are you working with now? I was in my friend Karl Fritch’s workshop in February and he helped me cast a group of works in a mix of copper and silver, which the Japanese called Shibuichi. I had never done the whole lost wax casting process before and it was hugely informativ­e, especially with patinas. This particular alloy can have a huge range of patinas using very simple methods, which I explored with a number of small centaur sculptures.

You are a sculptor but you seem to traverse different territorie­s — painting, craft, sewing. Do you think there are any hard-and-fast rules as to what a sculpture is, or do you make up your own rules? I think we are way past rules in sculpture. I loved the living sculpture works by Gilbert and George from 1970. They are a fantastic example of “if you say it’s sculpture then it is”. They painted their hands and faces in bronze paint and sang on a pedestal. Sculpture!

You’ve mentioned before you had an aversion to yellow and purple, and to triangles, which is why you often painted your sculptures in these colours and patterns. Do you have any new aversions to colour? Nowadays orange is the colour I’m wrestling with. I approached it via peach, and I can now cope with orange in small amounts. In the show I have on with Ivan Anthony at the moment, I made orange balls as feet on each plinth, and plenty of the watercolou­rs are orange too. The ceramics are painted with a weird purple glaze, so you can see how comfortabl­e I now am with that colour.

In the past you collaborat­ed with glass artists and other designers. Do you still work in this way or are there times when you prefer to make something completely under you own steam? Talking of steam, the ceramics for my current show at Ivan Anthony were made at Barry Brickell’s Driving Creek Railway and Pottery in Coromandel. It was super exciting to have mini trains pull our carriages of fire wood and ceramic. I was working on forms thrown and designed by Nicholas Brandon, who lives in Kaimata. Laurie Steer, Sam Ireland and Martino helped me stack and fire the kiln. I love working with other people, it makes the process much more fun and I learn so much more. I also hope through this process I can teach things to my collaborat­ors in return. Now, back in London I will work on my own in the studio for a month or two but before long, I will invent another excuse to work with someone else.

You’ve said before that your figures are portraits of you, yet they are like husks, not dolls or people. Where do they come from? And what about the hippie characters, which seem to appear often? My figures have eyes, just no pupil, or the eye is closed. I don’t want anyone to think they can look into the sculpture’s eyes as if it is a being. When I say they are portraits of me, I mean that they come from me, from my experience­s. They are not representi­ng anyone but me and what I have seen. I’m very interested in the hippie aesthetic, so that type of look recurs often.

It’s pretty cool how you sew the clothes for your sculptures, how long have you been sewing and where do you source your fabrics? Mum taught me to use a sewing machine when I was 3 and I have sewn ever since. I can’t follow a pattern, but I can cut something rough and fast by eye. My fabrics come from wherever I can find them. From flea markets, to offcuts from my friends at the fashion brand Peter Pilotto in London, or bespoke woven fabrics by Lynne McKay in New Plymouth.

What do you love about living in London? Access to museums, art exhibition­s and live shows are just a few reasons I live in London. My favourite street market, which was also the oldest in London, called The Waste, was a great source of weird objects for my work, but sadly it isn’t what it was, nor are the charity shops.

How important was creative play to you as a child in relation to the work you have ended up doing? Hugely important. I think that is when I learned to be an artist. When I see children’s artistic works I’m always super impressed with their disarming ability to find the essence of art.

“I THINK WE ARE WAY PAST RULES IN SCULPTURE.”

 ?? Paul Dibble. Photo / Supplied ??
Paul Dibble. Photo / Supplied
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‘Bouquet of Birds and Flowers’, 2019.
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Francis Upritchard. Photo / Supplied
 ??  ?? ‘Shibuichi Pain Centaur’ 2019. Photo by Sam Hartnett, courtesy Ivan Anthony Gallery.
‘Shibuichi Pain Centaur’ 2019. Photo by Sam Hartnett, courtesy Ivan Anthony Gallery.

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