Weekend Herald

Former captain’s sobering message

- Liam Napier

I wouldn’t underestim­ate them. Playing at Twickenham is not easy. It’s a hard place to win.

Don’t write off England at Twickenham. That’s the grounding message from All Blacks great Sean Fitzpatric­k.

Like all rugby enthusiast­s, Fitzpatric­k can’t wait to see the All Blacks tested in England and Ireland.

But while many expect the All Blacks to swiftly bring Eddie Jones and England back down to earth following their controvers­ial 12-11 win over the weakened Springboks last week, Fitzpatric­k is more cautious.

Based for the past 13 years in London, where he is heavily involved with the Harlequins club that shares a partnershi­p agreement with New Zealand Rugby, Fitzpatric­k is well placed to assess the challenge England pose on home soil.

Fitzpatric­k had to wait six years after his test debut for a first crack at England in 1991, finishing his illustriou­s career with two wins and one loss against the Red Rose.

“I wouldn’t underestim­ate them,” said the former All Blacks captain, who played 92 tests between 1986 and 1997. “Playing at Twickenham is not easy. It’s a hard place to win. You’re playing a side that’s under pressure and there’s a lot of young kids who have been given an opportunit­y.

“Jones has made it quite clear that he’s targeting the World Cup and this is a developmen­t phase but he’s got to win at least two, and maybe sneak another, for it to be a successful November, otherwise he’s going to come under extreme pressure. He knows that, the players know that.

“Eddie has been forced to make changes through injuries, and there may be players who could prove a huge success come World Cup 2019.”

Fitzpatric­k was impressed with the All Blacks’ Rugby Championsh­ip. He singled out their supreme fitness, described prop Karl Tu’inukuafe as a diamond, praised Ardie Savea’s rise and Richie Mo’unga’s influentia­l cameo off the bench in the great Pretoria escape.

“Steve Hansen probably went into the Championsh­ip knowing 40 players he had for the World Cup and didn’t really expect to expand on that group. The beauty of what’s happened is he’s got another five or six who stuck their hand up. I loved the rebirth of energy from South Africa that’s been lacking, unfortunat­ely, for a number of years.”

The next two weeks would be the prefect preparatio­n for the World Cup, revealing plenty about which All Blacks are ready to chase a third successive crown in Japan.

“The challenge is going to be backto-back; how they’re going to manage the players through England and then going to play the second-best team in the world which we’ve struggled with in current times. That’s going to be really fascinatin­g. It’s an opportunit­y to see what players have got the bottle for test rugby at the highest level.

“When you look at 2015, we had two players in every position. Look at the World Cup final — any one of those players could have started and we wouldn’t have had much drop in performanc­e, if any, and that’s what we need. Teams that win World Cups have depth. That’s what New Zealand is showing at the moment.”

Depth was the defining difference between England and Ireland at present, too. In this regard, New Zealand coach Joe Schmidt deserved every accolade for guiding Ireland to such a threatenin­g position.

“Joe has done an amazing job developing their squad. Depth there is phenomenal now. It just shows the benefit of having central contracts because the players get looked after.

“That’s where England struggles. They’re probably never going to win another World Cup until they centralise their players. Ireland will be a massive challenge, and that’s what we want. We want to be tested.”

Reflecting on his playing experience­s, Fitzpatric­k felt his era of the 1980s and ’90s struggled with England, primarily due to their contrastin­g style and lack of familiarit­y.

In all his 128 matches in black, of which only two came off the bench, Fitzpatric­k faced the Home Nations 21 times, quite staggering given the now yearly frequency of northern tours.

“We didn’t really play anyone from the Northern Hemisphere. They were different in those days in the way they scrummaged.

“The attritiona­l game in England is different to what we do in New Zealand, especially as a forward.”

While in its infancy, the partnershi­p between Quins and NZR could, therefore, benefit both parties when player exchanges soon start.

“It’s a real positive in terms of having a controlled environmen­t where we know they are going.

“It’s still a commercial arrangemen­t but we know what the training regimes are; we know they’re being looked after. I don’t think that’s the case with a lot of the clubs they go to, and I’m sure a lot of the players would say exactly that.

“The biggest thing for players today is playing in a World Cup. If we can control that cycle, maybe give players two years playing in Europe in between, rather than letting them go and then it’s a toss of a coin whether they’re going to come back or not.

“I always look at Carl Hayman, Charles Piutau, Steven Luatua, some of the best players in the world, and we don’t see them playing on the internatio­nal stage.

“It’s quite mature in terms of being in the best interests of both organisati­ons and ultimately better for the game globally.”

Sean Fitzpatric­k

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