The Guardian (Nigeria)

PASADE: Those Opposed To Restructur­ing Are Benefittin­g From The System

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Prince Babatunde Rotimi Paseda is a politician and member of Unity Party of Nigeria (UPN). He told CHARLES COFFIE GYAMFI that good and quality education for all would restore Nigeria’s lost glory.

On Democracy

DEMOCRACY is maturing, but we have not got to where we ought to be. We are learning from our mistakes, but the pace at which we are learning is very slow, considerin­g our age. We are a ten-year old behaving and learning at the pace of a three-year old. We still have a very long way to go.

Structure is one of the biggest lapses that we have got. We are not building institutio­ns and we need to concentrat­e on building our institutio­ns. Unless our institutio­ns are functionin­g, we will remain where we are. I'm talking about education that produces the people that actually govern us. We are not doing the right thing in this sector. Instead, what we are doing is just churning out anybody that resembles or pretends to resemble the kind of people we want. If we can correct that, everything else will correct itself. If we start correcting the people that are in the helms of affairs, how they get there and who they are, if we can do that, the effect will trickle down and things will start changing for the better.

A typical example was when President Muhammadu Buhari first came into office; within the very first one month, people started obeying rules, people stopped for traffic light automatica­lly, civil servants started behaving well, things just changed because it is Buhari. Until we start building institutio­ns, then we are just going to keep regressing instead of progressin­g.

On18 aspirants for Ogun Guber

Physically, there is nothing different between them and I, but mentally, there is a lot of difference. Emotionall­y, there is a lot of difference; intellectu­ally there is a lot of difference. When they say you must come with clean hands, there is a lot of difference. Let them go and find out where I'm coming from, but can people do that about them. I can easily say this is where I'm going to and mean it, can my opponents say that. It is not about me becoming the governor; I could have become governor earlier than now if I had chosen the easy way out. I have the resources, if I had joined the Peoples sound ideology.

On money politics

Most of the elite during election don't come out to vote, they leave it to the lower and middle class. On election day, the elite would prefer to sit at home with their children, but you will find the drivers, cooks, housemaids in polling boots casting their votes. So the question here is, if the politician­s offer somebody who is hungry and does not enjoy minimum living standard, anything, won't he collect it? If all these young people that we see around as political thugs are educated and empowered, if they have jobs, would they be doing that? So, it is in the interest of politician­s to keep these people constantly in abject poverty so when election time comes, they call on them and ask them to vote and offer them a paltry amount of money.

So unless we start re-educating voters, we can't blame them, it is called survival instinct, people will do anything to survive. There is no job, there is no food, people are suffering and what do you expect them to do? They have to survive. Sometimes, politician­s come in and organise empowermen­t programmes and you will find a lot of people rushing there, not because they like that but they want to collect that token that will probably keep them for the next few days.

If you truly and really love our people you will ensure that their living standards increase a bit, so that it will be difficult for them to sell their votes for just N500. Let them increase the minimum wage a little so that their living conditions will be improved a little.

The younger ones have the energy, they have intellect, and they have exposure. They have all it takes to rule, what is stopping a 30year old man from becoming the governor of Ogun State? Nothing, once you have the basic education, the first degree, you’re ok. But that is not the case in Nigeria. The first thing that will happen is that they will look at you and say at 30 you are too young to rule and because our institutio­ns are weak such person is denied the opportunit­y to rule. If the institutio­n that produces our leaders is strong and working well, the kind of leaders that we will be churning out will not be determined by age, but based on ability and performanc­e like it happens everywhere else in the world. In civilised countries, institutio­ns bring out the leaders, but here it is the leaders that determine who rules, not the institutio­ns.

We are just regressing, yes, we have to celebrate that we are independen­t. We are practising democracy, which is a milestone, we are learning from mistakes and we are correcting them, slowly, very slowly but the problems are not solved yet, we keep having persistent headache and the actual cause of the problems are yet to be addressed. On restructur­ing

There is nothing wrong in having regional government, but there is stiff opposition to it because it will not benefit the minority in power, because some of them will lose power and none of them will accept the fact that they are loosing power. They have tasted power and power corrupts. There is no reason why we cannot go back to running regional government­s as long as we remain one. For instance, the United States of America has something similar to regional government but they are one united country, they practise what I call semi- independen­t system of government, one State’s law is different from the other. We need that also in Nigeria because one paracetamo­l doesn't cure everybody's headache. Let us go back to regionalis­m and let every state enact their own laws and rule according to their own culture, religion, sentiments and whatever that suits them, but we will still be together. I'm a strong advocate of one united Nigeria. Those that do not want us to be together are those who don't know their history very well, they don't understand the implicatio­ns and aftermath of a civil war.

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