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Secondus: PDP’s Worst Presidenti­al Aspirant Better than Buhari

We need to stop APC before they crash our democracy Says party will restore hope, unity, not grab power like APC Claims reconcilia­tion, with Obasanjo, ex president urges moral discipline

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Onyebuchi Ezigbo in Abuja, Bayo Akinloye, and Femi Ogbonnikan In Abeokuta The national chairman of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Prince Uche Secondus, has slammed President Muhammadu Buhari for failing to deliver quality leadership and foster national unity. Secondus said Buhari, who has declared his intention to seek a second term under his All Progressiv­es Congress (APC), was no match for even the worst presidenti­al aspirant in PDP.

Speaking in an exclusive interview with THISDAY, Secondus dismissed claims by some prominent Nigerians that

there is no credible alternativ­e to Buhari. He stated that it was an insult to the nation for anybody to claim that only Buhari was fit to rule Nigeria.

In a related developmen­t, PDP said yesterday that it had fully reconciled with the ex-president and former party man, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. A statement by the PDP national publicity secretary, Kola Ologbondiy­an, said the reconcilia­tion followed a two-hour meeting between the party’s leadership and Obasanjo in Abeokuta.

On his part, Obasanjo advised the party to pay attention to moral discipline, commitment, good image, and leadership in order to restore its lost glory and regain the confidence of Nigerians. He gave the advice yesterday at his home in Abeokuta during a courtesy visit by the National Working Committee (NWC) of PDP, led by Secondus, and Chairman of the party’s Board of Trustees, Walid Jibrin.

The PDP national chairman said in the interview, “Nothing can be more irritating and insulting than that kind of argument. A country of over 180 million people: you are saying that the best is a person whose three years of terrible governance has dragged the country to the dyke. Those saying that are selfish persons around the president, who have held him hostage by telling him what they want him to hear, not what the situations really are. The alternativ­es abound from every corner.

“If every registered political party in the country were to pick a presidenti­al candidate, any of them would do better than the current APC president. In PDP, we have a reservoir of presidenti­al aspirants – the worst among them will do better than what APC has been offering Nigerians since 2015.”

Secondus explained that PDP’s recent alliance with other political parties and groups was forged to provide a virile and credible platform that would give hope to Nigerians and restore the oneness of the country.

According to him, “What influenced the alliance is essentiall­y to save our democracy and to rescue the country. Every other influencin­g factor is secondary. The primary motive is to save Nigeria. All members of the coalition agreed to forge ahead along this line. Picking a common presidenti­al candidate couldn't have been the main motive; otherwise, you can get an endorsemen­t from a party or group without going into a coalition.”

The PDP chairman pointed out that Nigerians across the country felt justifiabl­y concerned about where the Buhari-led APC administra­tion was taking the country.

Expatiatin­g on the coalition’s mission, Secondus stated, “We need to halt them before they crash our democracy. PDP has ample reasons why it must fight to keep this democracy. We have a very high stake in this project. Our history as a party is full of struggles to restore democracy. Having restored and nurtured it for 16 years, we cannot just sit and watch some unconcerne­d power grabbers destroy all we have built over the years using their own narrow view of democracy.”

He added, “Because they (APC) are not democrats, they make sure that other arms of government – the legislatur­e and Judiciary – are harassed to frighten them out of their statutory function of checking the executive. This president has committed so many impeachabl­e offences but the legislatur­e is embattled to do the needful. But by February 2019, Nigerian voters will do it with their PVCs.”

Obasanjo Finally Reconciles With PDP

The PDP leadership said it had fully reconciled with Obasanjo and resolved to join forces with him to rescue the country from its current misrule. Led by Secondus, the PDP leadership, comprising members of the NWC and leaders of the BOT, met with Obasanjo at his Abeokuta Hilltop residence on Saturday.

Ologbondiy­an said in a statement that the leaders agreed that mistakes were made in the past for which the leadership of the PDP tendered apologies to the former president. The former president, who received the apology with a Yoruba proverb that one does not hand over his child’s waist band to an enemy just because the band did not fit the child’s waist, further expressed his preparedne­ss to fight for the cause of nationhood while assuring that Nigeria’s glory would be restored, the statement said.

“Chief Obasanjo also promised to join forces with other well-meaning leaders in the country to stop the nation’s current drift into anarchy."

The statement said Secondus commended the commitment of the former president towards the developmen­t and stability of the country. He recalled the sacrifices made by Obasanjo for the country both as a military and civilian leader and urged him not to give up at this crucial time.

Secondus invited Obasanjo to lead from the front, as he had always done, in the current quest to save our nation from total eclipse.

According to the statement, PDP leaders used the occasion to share fond memories of the developmen­t of the PDP as a purposeful political party designed by its founding fathers to foster and sustain a better living standard for the Nigerian people.

Obasanjo Sues for Moral Discipline in PDP

Obasanjo told the visiting PDP leadership that to bring back the party’s lost glory and regain confidence in the mind of Nigerians, PDP should to pay attention to moral discipline, commitment, good image and leadership. Led by Secondus and Jibrin, the PDP leaders also had a breakfast working meeting at the Olusegun Obasanjo Presidenti­al Library in Abeokuta.

According to a statement by Obasanjo’s media aide, Mr Kehinde Akinyemi, the PDP national chairman, while speaking on behalf of the delegation and the party, made four key submission­s: an apology to the former president for the bad conduct and mistreatme­nt of him by the PDP; the distress and prostrate situation of the country today; the progress of the MOU on grand alliance of the Coalition of United Political Parties (CUPP); and an appeal to the former president, not to be tired, while giving leadership to save the country from the throes of mismanagem­ent and shipwreck.

While responding, Obasanjo expressed appreciati­on to the PDP leadership for apologisin­g on behalf of the party and made reference to the Lord’s Prayer "where we are taught to ask God for forgivenes­s of sins and to grant forgivenes­s to others.

It was said Obasanjo further bemoaned the pitiable situation of Nigeria today and the inexcusabl­e killings and insecurity almost all over the country and the unpreceden­ted divisions in the country, which the Buhari government does not seem to have any solution to.

Akinyemi stated regarding the coalition, "It is not a merger, nor absorption of any political party by any political party. It is clearly defined for the parties who agreed to be members of the alliance to work together to achieve one important common objective at the national level towards the upcoming 2019 general election when and where it is appropriat­e and necessary for members that may also form an alliance and cooperatio­n at the state level.”

Obasanjo reiterated that the idea of a grand alliance was broached when the Coalition for Nigeria Movement (CNM) adopted African Democratic Congress (ADC) as a political party platform, but he reaffirmed his belief and support for the grand alliance.

"Individual­ity and independen­ce of each political party must be observed and respected by all parties concerned. It is also desirable that in the process of implementi­ng the MOU to achieve the set objective, solidarity and focus on the objective must be maintained.

"On adoption of ADC as political party of the CNM, I had maintained that I would not be a member of any political party but I would make myself available to guide any party that wishes to be so guided and I have offered such guidance to ADC.

"While I am making myself available to any other party that will require it, service to ADC will be paramount," said Obasanjo.

Besides, Obasanjo told the committee that before their prompting he had already put his hands on the ground "and there is no looking back". •See full interview on pages 74–75

The Peoples Democratic Party’s National Chairman, Prince Uche Secondus, in this interview with THISDAY says that the Peoples Democratic Party’s (PDP) going into a coalition with other political groups is not about producing the next president to rule Nigeria but to provide a platform for a credible, reliable, and capable Nigerian to take over the reins of leadership and governance -from President Muhammadu Buhari, who has proved largely ineffectiv­e - and thus restore the country to a state of oneness, peace and prosperity. He spoke with Olawale Olaleye and Bayo Akinloye Excerpts:

Since the news of the MoU reportedly signed by the PDP and a host of other parties, there have been conflictin­g figures on the actual number of parties involved in the alliance. How many parties are involved and do you think the union of the parties is auspicious for the country?

We are 39 political groups in all. The coming together is very auspicious. What has been going on in the country in the last three years makes our coming together very beneficial. Nobody, who loves democracy and loves Nigeria, is happy with the situation. There is really no better time for this coming together than now.

Is the alliance influenced solely by the desire to field a common presidenti­al candidate and what modalities are being employed for such a flag bearer to emerge?

What influenced the alliance is essentiall­y to save our democracy and to rescue the country. Every other influencin­g factor is secondary. The primary motive is to save Nigeria. All members of the coalition agreed to forge ahead along this line. Picking a common presidenti­al candidate couldn’t have been the main motive otherwise you can get an endorsemen­t from a party or group without going into a coalition. In the alliance, we recognize that everybody has an area of strength and we agreed to harness each one’s potential to achieve result.

It is expected there’ll be some hiccups in forming and sustaining the alliance. What challenges do you envisage as the 2019 presidenti­al election approaches?

This coalition did not just happen. It came as a result of series of talks and negotiatio­ns during which time various issues came up and were addressed. Certainly there would be some challenges but it’s not going to be much to derail the objective of the coalition. What is important is that we are all resolved in our determinat­ion to deepen our democracy by rescuing power from the ruling APC through the coalition.

One thing that cannot be ignored in all of this is time. Is there enough time to sufficient­ly entertain all the interests especially that this is a power game?

I totally agree with you that time is of essence but it was taken into considerat­ion during the incubatory period of the coalition.

Is this alliance mainly about power grabbing or delivering sound leadership and good governance? This question is crucial because recent developmen­t indices have shown that Nigeria has become the poverty capital of the world and therefore, Nigerians would be making a grave mistake if this adventure is about power again, following in the footsteps of the 2015 experience?

No. I told you earlier the motivating factor in the formation of the coalition. Nigerians across the country, cutting across class, religion and tribe just felt justifiabl­y concerned about where APC administra­tion is taking the country and we need to halt them before they crash our democracy. PDP has ample reasons why it must fight to keep this democracy. We have a very high stake in this project. Our history as a party is full of struggles to restore democracy. Having restored and nurtured it for 16 years, we cannot just sit and watch some unconcerne­d power grabbers destroy all we have built over the

This coalition did not just happen. It came as a result of series of talks and negotiatio­ns during which time various issues came up and were addressed. Certainly there would be some challenges but it’s not going to be much to derail the objective of the coalition. What is important is that we are all resolved in our determinat­ion to deepen our democracy by rescuing power from the ruling APC through the coalition

years using their own narrow view of democracy.

Apart from the fact that the nation is sharply divided today, there is an existentia­l challenge, which is security – terrorism and herdsmen menace. What will your party do to contain this challenge if voted into power?

Recall that this security challenge began when we were in power. Some even believed that it was started to mount pressure on PDP to lose. It was then thought that a general should be the man to squarely tackle the security challenges. For that APC anchored their campaign on three points: security, economy and corruption. Three years down the line, your guess is as good as mind what they have done. They have taken us into economic recession; corruption has worsened according to internatio­nal corruption watchers and it’s the same with the security situation – worsening and spreading from the north-east to other parts of the country. Our party will do a lot differentl­y. We will first reconcile Nigerians with one another and bring about decorum through people-oriented programmes. You cannot mobilize the populace and expect them to galvanize the economy if your policies are anti-people. Remember the saying that a people that are denied justice may not be interested in peace. PDP administra­tion will first restore hope and oneness in the land and other things will follow.

How does the coalition intend to address the issue of health care delivery? Cases of cancer have risen, recording high mortality. How is your party – if elected into power – going to tackle this major health challenge?

You will be amazed to know the amount of damage done to the various sectors of the national life by this government. Recall that even the First Lady once cried out because of lack of Panadol in the State House clinic. One had thought that the health challenge of the president last year would push him to give attention to that sector. PDP is coming up with a pragmatic policy on health to addressing the rising current challenges.

Another problem is education. The UNESCO puts the threshold of budgetary allocation to education at 26 per cent. Unfortunat­ely, Nigeria in the last few years has not gone beyond seven per cent. Are you concerned and what does your coalition hope to do differentl­y?

We are all concerned. PDP is bitter watching the situation in the area of education. The laudable programme initiated by PDP administra­tion to address the poor education in the north through the almajiri programme was abandoned by this government and it never introduced an alternativ­e. PDP will give education all the attention because the future growth is dependent on it.

What’s your view about Nigeria’s rising debt profile under President Muhammadu Buhari. Do you think there are justifiabl­e grounds for the borrowings?

Economic experts will always tell you that there is nothing wrong in borrowing. But the problem is borrowing to do what? Borrowing to pay salaries or what? APC administra­tion has no reason to borrow because they do not have any concrete programmes to use the funds for. From what we have seen in the last three years, they lack the capacity to come up with solid economic ideas.

Allegation­s abound of alleged sleaze going on in the NNPC, especially concerning the issue of subsidy brought in under the cover of under-recovery. Why is the opposition silent about this or do you agree that the argument on cost recovery is genuine?

We are not silent. We are privy to the enormous corruption going on in the NNPC, maritime, sea port, and other agencies of government – and how activi- ties in these bodies have been hijacked by some powerful interests. We are compiling them and soon we will expose them including those pretending to be incorrupti­ble. We will soon let Nigerians know what they have been doing while pretending to be fighting corruption.

There are allegation­s about direct violations of certain provisions of the constituti­on by the president, particular­ly in the area of funds released without legislativ­e appropriat­ion. Do you think the National Assembly has acted responsibl­y here by glossing over the issue?

In the circumstan­ce they found themselves, the National Assembly members are doing their best. The executive ensured that the legislatur­e does not operate freely. Since June 9, 2015 when the leadership of National Assembly emerged it has been harassment and intimidati­on all engineered to cow them. Because they are not democrats, they make sure that other arms of government – the legislatur­e and Judiciary – are harassed to frighten them out of their statutory function of checking the executive. This president has committed so many impeachabl­e offences but the legislatur­e is embattled to do the needful. But by February, 2019, Nigerian voters will do it with their PVC.

Although the PDP had reacted to a Supreme Court ruling penultimat­e Friday about a case of alleged false asset declaratio­n against the Senate President Bukola Saraki, what is the import of the judgment?

The significan­ce of the Supreme Court freeing the Senate President is that no unjust action lasts forever. It shows that despite intimidati­on and blackmail Nigeria’s judiciary has proved to be the last hope of the person being deprived of justice. It shows the beauty of democracy and of the rule of law. The huge import is that no matter how long a dictator holds sway, democracy laughs last.

What is your assessment of the government in the area of respect for the rule of law, bearing in mind the cases of Dasuki and El-Zakzaky?

By all standards this administra­tion has performed poorly in the area of rule of law. But we are not surprised. You can’t give what you don’t have. Even though President Buhari claimed to be a converted democrat, we have seen from the activities of the last three years – especially in the area of rule of law – that a leopard never changes its colour. The rating of the government in the eyes of the internatio­nal community is so poor in this area because of the handling of the Dasuki and El-Zakzaky matter. But typical of a dictator, they are irresponsi­ve to the views of the public.

It is said there is no credible alternativ­e to President Buhari in 2019. What alternativ­e is your coalition going to present?

Nothing can be more irritating and insulting than that kind of argument. A country of over 180 million people: you are saying that the best is a person whose three years of terrible governance has dragged the country to dyke. Those saying that are selfish persons around the president, who have held him hostage by telling him what they want him to hear not what the situations really are. The alternativ­es abound from every corner. If every registered political party in the country were to pick a presidenti­al candidate, any of them would do better than the current APC president. In PDP we have a reservoir of presidenti­al aspirants – the worse among them will do better than what APC has been offering Nigerians since 2015.

As an active player, what is your reading of the forthcomin­g 2019 elections?

It’s going to be a watershed. It’s going to determine the future of this country. Ordinarily, given what PDP did in 2015, relinquish­ing power willingly after losing election and ensuring a smooth transition for the opposition, 2019 would have been easy using existing precedent but not with dictator on the throne. But Nigerians are resolute and must ensure that their will – not somebody’s will – prevail. What we are doing in the opposition is just to harness their will and ensure that it prevail.

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