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‘The Prudent Thing is to Insulate the Governorsh­ip Primary from Dispute’

As the All Progressiv­es Congress selects its governorsh­ip flagbearer in Kogi State today, Mr. Babatunde Irukera, Chief Executive, Federal Competitio­n and Consumer Protection Commission one of the candidates whose campaign has suffered a setback, may be ex

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What is the most urgent persuasion that brought you into the race for the APC governorsh­ip ticket in Kogi State?

My most urgent persuasion is a combinatio­n of factors. First, I recognize that Kogi is underperfo­rming, not just from the standpoint of general statistics across key indicators and comparison­s of the states, but even more so when it’s strategic location and abundant resources are considered. The second is twofold; many within, and even some outside the state have repeatedly asked or challenged me to do this, with many expressing an interest to make the sacrifice to advance the state working on a team I belong in. However, persuasion and even pressure are not sufficient to make me engage in an enterprise of the magnitude of ruling a state. After much consultati­on and mostly introspect­ion, I believe that I have something to offer that will be to the benefit of the people and the state. And quite frankly, I might very well be a guinea pig of some sort to either encourage or discourage (depending on the transparen­cy of the processes) an important class, vital, vocal, skilled, accomplish­ed and ready to transform the nation through the electoral process, but who nonetheles­s currently do not engage. Although their restraint and exclusion are understand­able and justifiabl­e, ultimately and in the end for nation and future, it’s inexcusabl­e. If I am a laboratory rat for this, that itself is a legacy and important step in breaking the already failing glass ceiling. Finally, governance that expands prosperity, promotes humanity and underscore­s our real our shared values such as probity, accountabi­lity, discretion, social justice and our other core values of old such as education, hard work, morality and proper role modeling/mentorship are lacking but possible in Kogi.

Many aspirants in the APC have come under fire from officials of the state government who are apparently supporting the reelection bid of Governor Yahaya Bello, is this worrisome to your quest?

I think it’s understand­able that people serving a government are loyal to the government and possibly critical of those who are not supportive of the government. This is fine. What is worrisome is where there’s isn’t sufficient­ly robust self-scrutiny and deep reflection by those in government to be able to truly steer the course of governance to deliver on its purpose. I might add too, that political criticism, and rhetoric are normal, what is troubling is fatal conclusion that seeking office that is constituti­onally open to all by an electoral process necessaril­y means enmity. Those they serve in office emerged through same process and in the same constituti­onal electoral cycle. Finally, incumbents usually run on their record, so it is seemly obtuse that attacking potential candidates personally instead of defending your record. Of course, there are objective standards of acceptable behavior. If someone who aspires to public is of questionab­le or controvers­ial character or fails to meet the acceptable objective standards, then it is fair game that such be subject of discussion. Ultimately, I don’t think brickbats from appointees present any real threat to my candidacy. The audience is constitute­d of people who I take my message of character, capacity and record as indicators of my intention, and evidence of my capability to deliver on my promises and certainly, the aspiration­s and expectatio­ns of the people.

Some members of your party have approached the courts to contest the method adopted by the APC to select its governorsh­ip candidate, where do you stand-direct or indirect primary?

Being a lawyer and a litigator gives me a different, or perhaps better perspectiv­e on this. From a dispassion­ate view, the question is much less about a preference than it is about safety. The dispute presented before the courts potentiall­y affects the foundation upon which our party has built previous elections in the state. The status of the law on the subject from the highest court of the land is final and led to a total loss in Zamfara, and in part why we were disallowed from fielding a candidate in Rivers. The legally and strategica­lly prudent thing to do is to avoid the implicated or disputed issue and insulate the primaries and our successful outcome in the general elections from the dispute. This is even more so when the party constituti­on also provides the flexibilit­y to choose either process. If the legal challenge against the validity of the current party executive in the state succeeds, a primary election conducted by delegates who are ultimately determined illegal exposes the party to avoidable risk. In a direct primaries, party members vote and so the pending legal challenges will not materially affect the outcome of any direct exercise. The current procedural posture of the cases does not diminish the need for prudence. Being undecided, it will be present a risk of what the decision could be. Even if it were decided, the constituti­onal right of appeal neither diminishes nor eliminates the risk, as it is customary for court decisions to operate retroactiv­ely and potentiall­y deconstruc­t what was built on what the courts may declare illegal.

With the contending forces not agreeing to shift ground, what chances are there for reconcilia­tion when the primary is over?

Again, as a litigator, the possibilit­y of negotiated or mutually acceptable resolution­s is not only almost always possible, but welcome. However, I don’t see how aspiration­s are openly negotiable. Aspirants coming together to choose one or the other to run instead of the other is permissibl­e, but I don’t see that in the context of a reconcilia­tion of difference­s. How the primaries are conducted will be vital to the possibilit­y, nature and scope of existing difference­s.

Do you see what happened to the APC in Zamfara and Rivers repeating itself in Kogi?

Only if we do not take appropriat­e care and ensure we avoid the pitfalls we are confronted with as they have certain similariti­es with Zamfara or Rivers.

Kogi State has become notorious for fear and tension, will these reduce or rise after the APC governorsh­ip primary?

I sincerely expect it to. Some of the tension and apprehensi­on are on account of the imminent political activities. I must add though that it is dishearten­ing and needless that this politicall­y motivated violence is the case in Kogi.

The rumours that Governor Yahaya Bello has majority of the delegates and officials who will conduct the election in his pocket is rife, why are you hopeful to emerge winner?

I have heard that rumour. I am however willing to take the risk of the effort to make our politics mature. In my message to Kogi, I have repeatedly highlighte­d the fact that delegates don’t belong in pockets. They are trustees and custodians entrusted with the collective destinies and fates of the people. They are their delegates, not delegates of the office holder or otherwise. They should vote the minds of their communitie­s, not the desire or aspiration­s of a candidate. I am not so naive that I don’t understand the realities, but those realities and all legal means to persuade the delegates is fair. Although, we seemed to characteri­ze this practice of isolating the delegates from others is really not “camping” in reality. It’s actually detention. Camping is what people do willing or a profession­ally required training. While there, they engage in a programme of activities geared towards the objective of the profession. But any operation on the minds of people that restricts their liberties, free will, freedom to associate politicall­y, and certainly the freedom to choose is suspect. It undermines the very foundation of our society and democratic process. Like I said, we must understand the realities and navigate the process while presenting a different narrative and value propositio­n. It, however, remains to be seen how well received both the propositio­n and aspiration­s/candidacie­s based on those propositio­ns will be. I agree and subscribe to a transparen­t and fair method of ensuring the convenienc­e and ease of delegates, especially logistical­ly, but excluding them from normal interactio­ns, especially, others who should legitimate­ly have access is negative to our democratic growth.

Your candidacy has been linked to your liaison with Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, does this provide some kind of comfort or is it a hindrance?

Any link to a brand best known for the right virtues and values must necessaril­y be an honor and comfort. The Vice President’s reputation and record is a matter of national pride, and I will gladly appropriat­e the fame that necessaril­y comes with that. Having said that, the Vice President is an extremely senior party leader, next only to the president. My interactio­ns with him on running in Kogi and other issues underscore his broad approach to promoting fairness and a level playing field, as well as consensus around good faith acceptance in exchange for fair and transparen­t practices and processes that assures victory as well as build the strength and fabric of our party.

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