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‘Energy transition, nuclear tech key to Saudi-Argentine climate fight’

Argentina’s top diplomat says both countries can cooperate in the field of environmen­tal sustainabi­lity while forging closer commercial, political, cultural and institutio­nal relations

- Noor Nugali Riyadh

Energy transition, civil nuclear technology and environmen­tal sustainabi­lity are among the many potential areas of cooperatio­n between Argentina and Saudi Arabia in the fight against climate change, Santiago Cafiero, the Argentine minister of foreign affairs, said during an exclusive interview with Arab News on Wednesday.

Considerat­ions such as these are high on the global diplomatic agenda this month. Cafiero’s visit to Saudi Arabia coincides with the ongoing UN Climate Change Conference (COP27) in Egypt, where the Kingdom is showcasing its Saudi Green and Middle East Green Initiative­s.

“Argentina has signed up to the internatio­nal commitment­s and it has actually raised its ambitions with respect to carbon emissions,” said Cafiero, highlighti­ng the

South American nation’s commitment to achieving carbon neutrality by 2050.

In this context, he cited energytran­sition projects involving solar and green hydrogen as well as sustainabi­lity initiative­s such as regenerati­ve agricultur­e as some of the country’s many strengths.

“Argentina is the eighth largest country in the world. It has an immense geography, and it has natural resources that are very well known. But we also take great care of them. We have a view of sustainabl­e productive developmen­t with respect to the environmen­t and we intend to keep it that way,” he said.

“Argentina has an important role to play in terms of the energy transition. Today we have green hydrogen projects and we also have developmen­ts of strategic minerals for electro mobility, such as copper and lithium. Argentina can really become an important player for the energy transition and there I think we can do cooperativ­e work with Saudi Arabia.”

Cafiero’s visit to the Kingdom — his first as Argentina’s top diplomat — comes as the world faces multiple overlappin­g crises — from the residual effects of the COVID-19 pandemic to inflation, climate pressures and the war in Ukraine — that have caused disruption­s to global food and energy supply chains.

While Saudi Arabia and Argentina have risen to these challenges in their own ways, Cafiero believes the two countries have much to contribute by cooperatin­g in everything from business and diplomacy to energy security.

“In this time of uncertaint­y, I think that friendly countries like Saudi Arabia and Argentina have a lot to contribute to the world if they come together, if they work together and cooperate,” Cafiero told Arab News.

According to Cafiero, Saudi Arabia and Argentina have “all the possibilit­ies” to connect their two peoples commercial­ly, politicall­y and in the areas of culture and clean energy.

“Argentina has natural and human resources,” he said, “and it also has a strong political inclinatio­n to move in this direction together with Saudi Arabia when it comes to developing business links, trade, and also to lend a hand to the rest of the world to provide energy and secure food.”

Last year, Argentina’s President Alberto Fernandez urged investors from Saudi Arabia and other countries to “turn your gaze to Argentina,” saying that he wanted foreign investment that “produces and wins.” Since then, fresh business ties have already been establishe­d.

“Today, the work that we are carrying forward, in the ministry of foreign affairs and internatio­nal trade, is that of a road map for strategic sectors that we understand are of interest to Saudi

Arabia. These are agribusine­ss and the biotechnol­ogy industry,” said Cafiero.

“And then we also have an interestin­g developmen­t in knowledge-driven economy and strategic minerals. Argentina also has a great capacity for its own developmen­t of services related to non-convention­al gas production, and high-tech sectors such as the satellite industry or the applicatio­n of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.”

Civil nuclear technology is a promising area of cooperatio­n between the two countries. Saudi Arabia — blessed not only with the great gift of oil but also with vast reserves of the uranium required for nuclear generation — is currently planning its first reactor in collaborat­ion with the Internatio­nal Atomic Energy Agency.

“Argentina looks back on 70 years of work on nuclear technology for peaceful purposes,” said Cafiero.

“In fact, we are developing a reactor for studies here in Saudi Arabia and for the developmen­t of applicatio­ns related to nuclear technology. That is, applicatio­ns related to nuclear medicine, cancer treatment and some even applied to agricultur­al products.

“We also apply nuclear technology to eliminate plastic from the oceans, which is something we are already doing in Antarctica.”

For all its technologi­cal strengths, Argentina’s economy has endured several turbulent years, mainly owing to chronic inflation. Last month, the IMF, which has described the country’s economic situation as “fragile,” approved a $17.5 billion loan to Buenos Aires — the second installmen­t of a $44 billion support package.

Cafiero says that the Argentine economy has now returned to growth, resulting in booming exports, record foreign investment and rising employment.

“We are optimistic about the path that the Argentine economy is taking,” said Cafiero. “We had three consecutiv­e years of economic recession: 2018, 2019 and 2020, with the pandemic.

“Only in 2021 Argentina started to grow again and it grew a lot: 10.3 percent this year. In the first half of this year, we also have a growth of six points in gross national product. So we believe that we are on the right track.”

He added: “During the last year 1.2 million jobs have been created. So far this year, 30,000 jobs have been generated every month … In the first half of the year 2022 we have a record investment rate in the history of Argentina and we are going to reach record export levels during this year.”

Despite its recent economic misfortune­s, Argentina remains well known for its wealth of cultural icons, from its acclaimed authors such as Victoria Ocampo and musical greats such as Diego Torres to its celebrated sportsmen Messi and Maradona.

As Saudi Arabia emerges as the Middle East’s new hub for the arts, culture, music, sports and filmmaking, Cafiero believes that there is a role for soft power in forging closer ties between the Kingdom and Argentina.

“I think we have all the possibilit­ies to bring more Argentina to Saudi Arabia, and more Saudi Arabia to Argentina,” he said. “We should therefore connect these two peoples not only in their commercial and political developmen­t, but we also have to move forward from a cultural point of view.

Referring to Saudi Arabia’s opening match against muchfancie­d Argentina at the World

Cup in Qatar on Nov. 22, Cafiero said: “With respect to football, although we are only divided by one match and we both want our team to win. It really is a sport that builds bridges.”

On the diplomatic front, the

Arab Gulf states have long had concerns about Iranian and Hezbollah activities in Latin America. Several regional government­s have made attempts to build ties with Iran, doing little to relieve those concerns.

Such attempts by Argentina have been less pronounced in recent decades. After a period of nuclear cooperatio­n that began in the mid-1980s, relations with Iran were set back by two bombings in Buenos Aires in the early 1990s.

Those bombings, the first of the Israeli Embassy in 1992 and the second that of the Argentine Israelite Mutual Associatio­n in 1994, destroyed what had previously been a close and mutually beneficial relationsh­ip.

“Argentina’s diplomatic relationsh­ip with Iran is on a rather low level, as a result of the attacks that Argentina suffered in 1992 and 1994,” said Cafiero.

“At that time, the Argentine justice system requested Iranian authoritie­s to be part of the investigat­ion but they did not cooperate. Since then, this relationsh­ip is therefore a tense one.”

By contrast, Cafiero says

Saudi Arabia and Argentina can strengthen the internatio­nal order through cooperatio­n, and enrich one another by establishi­ng cultural and institutio­nal bridges.

“We need a safer world and we strive for that security from the basis of a multilater­alism in solidarity,” he said.

“I think we both have two cultures that are very powerful cultures and they should build bridges between each other. Once they know and understand each other, they will surely enrich each other.”

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AN photos by Huda Bashatah Main: Soft power and expertise exchange are key to growing ties between Buenos Aires and Riyadh, Argentina’s foreign minister says; below: Cafiero speaks to Noor Nugali, Arab News assistant editor-in-chief.

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