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in school for a minute be­cause I was wor­ried I’d be left be­hind think­ing ev­ery­one I went to school with would grad­u­ate and I was stalling time. But I was more pas­sion­ate about the band and stuck with my gut feel­ing.”

The Off­spring is in the process of writ­ing a new al­bum due for re­lease in 2019. Over the last five years, they’ve been work­ing with es­teemed pro­ducer Bob Rock, who was be­hind iconic records such as Mot­ley Crue’s Dr Feel­good in 1989, The Cult’s Sonic Tem­ple in the same year and Me­tal­lica’s Me­tal­lica [The Black Al­bum] in 1991.

“We don’t have a la­bel any­more,” he laughs. “We were on Sony for five records and fin­ished the con­tract so we’re free agents now. We’ll find some­one who wants to put it out.”

Hol­land doesn’t seem too wor­ried ei­ther, happy to re­lease mu­sic on his terms. He did for al­most two decades run his own la­bel Nitro Records, which he sold in 2013, best known for sign­ing acts like The Van­dals, AFI and Gut­ter­mouth. “Af­ter 20 years I was ready to do some­thing else,” he says.

When he looks back at Smash, Hol­land says he re­mem­bers re­ceiv­ing an in­vi­ta­tion to at­tend his 10-year high school re­union and feel­ing ner­vous about it.

“I was like, oh shit, what have I done with my decade?” he says. “I got that two months be­fore Smash came out, and by the time the re­union hap­pened the al­bum had done well in the charts, so I had a good feel­ing walk­ing into the room. But, se­ri­ously, to that point I was in a lit­tle punk band, wal­low­ing away in grad school and I re­mem­ber that be­ing an un­com­fort­able time. I didn’t know whether I could face those I went to school with and not have a suc­cess story to tell.”

Hol­land is still king of the punk rock kids [they just grew up and so did he] and proof that sci­ence and punk rock do mix.

But while he’s made a ca­reer writ­ing about dis­af­fected youth and one-night stands, he’s got his in­tel­lec­tual mind set on sav­ing the world, or at the very least, shin­ing a light on new ways to erad­i­cate the AIDS virus.

So how has fame changed him? “That al­bum was a huge turn­ing point in my life and fame cer­tainly made it eas­ier be­cause we had more money to do things,” says Hol­land, who also runs his own hot sauce brand Gringo Ban­dito. “I mean how many stu­dents get to do the band thing and then re­turn to their stud­ies two decades later and ful­fill both dreams? I am also grate­ful the univer­sity ac­cepted me. They took a chance on me and that’s all you need to get through, some­one to be­lieve in you.”

Off­spring, group por­trait, Chicago, United States, 1994.

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