Business Day

Q&A with Capitec s CEO ’

- WARREN THOMPSON thompsonw@businessli­ve.co.za

In an earnings report that laid bare the impact of the pandemic-induced distress on household finances, Capitec reported a 78% plunge to R650m in halfyear earnings this week and set aside R4.3bn to cover potential losses from future skipped consumer loan repayments. Business Day financial services writer Warren Thompson asked CEO Gerrie Fourie to share his thoughts about the performanc­e.

In an earnings report that laid bare the effect of the pandemic-induced distress on household finances, Capitec this week reported a 78% plunge to R650m in half-year earnings and set aside R4.3bn to cover potential losses from future skipped consumer loan repayments.

The company, which has traditiona­lly attracted budgetsavv­y low- to middle-class banking clients with no-frills bank accounts, joins rivals FirstRand, Absa, Nedbank and Standard Bank in stowing away billions of rand to prepare for a wave of bad debts.

Business Day financial services writer Warren Thompson asked CEO Gerrie Fourie to share his thoughts about Capitec s performanc­e in

the six months to the end of August.

What do you think of Capitec s performanc­e during ’ the period?

We ve done better than

expectatio­ns. If I look at the first prediction we made in April, we have done better. If you look on the transactio­nal side, the operationa­l income before credit impairment­s is up 10%, which I think is quite strong. So the transactio­nal side has done exceptiona­lly well.

As more clients switch to digital, you have your digital transactio­ns up 52% and you have 7.2-million clients on the digital platform.

It s very encouragin­g and

that makes us the biggest digital

bank in SA.

On the credit side?

It s very encouragin­g how

quick and agile we were in responding to changes, how on a daily, weekly basis, we made changes.

We gave those payment breaks and we re concerned

that are the customers going to

have money to pay back?”. And as I ve mentioned, most people

have resumed repayments. It is in line with our expectatio­ns, if not slightly better.

What about business banking?

Talking to the CEOs or the owners, they say our turnover

is down 20%, but we ve cut our

expenses and are just relooking and making sure that every cent sweats ”. Then I think they can survive.

Tough trading conditions ahead?

I think in the short term we are going to do better. I m

’ talking SA, not Capitec-specific. But the concerning one is long term. We need to get the economy going. The government needs to create confidence so the private sector can invest.

What needs to happen to boost investor confidence?

If we look at the spectrum, we all know that data is very important. Let s dish out

spectrum. On our energy side, on Eskom, let s get the private

sector to invest and create green energy. Let s get policy clarity.

Let s execute.

Where are you going with business banking?

If you look at Mercantile Bank, we have a section of the bank which has run the bank and they continue to run Mercantile the way they have been running it. Yes, we have made changes and they re

executing.

At the moment we re happy

we can handle the volumes and we can deliver on the brand promise. We will rebrand to Capitec Business Banking. That s what we said from the

beginning and we re on track [to

rebrand in two years].

In the last six months, we have been managing Covid and making sure we re making the

right decisions.

You said you are getting 3,000 new business accounts a month. Is that coming through the door?

We don t advertise it at all. It s

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purely coming through our branch network. I think it s just

word of mouth about Capitec owning Mercantile. We re not

’ advertisin­g anything.

You set aside more than R4bn in provisions for future bad debts. Is that enough for this financial year?

That s our best estimate

currently, using our best knowledge. If the economy turns better, you can release provisions. But if it gets worse

let s say tomorrow we move to

level 5 lockdown that is a

completely different scenario and that can change it.

Everyone has given payment breaks. We are starting to see the first payments and the second payments. What will happen in September, October, November? There s still a lot of

uncertaint­y. We ve taken that

into considerat­ion.

But that s our best estimate,

given our knowledge of our clients, the industry, the companies and the economy.

IF WE LOOK AT THE SPECTRUM, WE ALL KNOW THAT DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT

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