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For­mer top cops will be among the first to tes­tify be­fore the com­mis­sion of in­quiry into al­le­ga­tions of state cap­ture, cor­rup­tion and fraud in the pub­lic sec­tor and will spill the beans on how for­mer pres­i­dent Ja­cob Zuma al­legedly mas­ter­minded the cap­ture of the coun­try’s law en­force­ment agen­cies.

When the Zondo com­mis­sion re­sumes in two weeks’ time, ousted Hawks head Anwa Dra­mat and for­mer Gaut­eng Hawks boss Shadrack Sibiya will tes­tify about events lead­ing up to their dis­missals in 2015, sources say. To­gether with In­de­pen­dent Po­lice In­ves­tiga­tive Direc­torate (Ipid) head Robert McBride, they will tell the com­mis­sion’s Judge Ray­mond Zondo about at­tempts to cap­ture the SA Po­lice Ser­vice, the Hawks, the Na­tional Prose­cut­ing Au­thor­ity and Ipid.

The three sep­a­rately held meet­ings with the com­mis­sion’s in­ves­ti­ga­tors this week and last month.

Sources fa­mil­iar with the dis­cus­sions told City Press that Dra­mat would tes­tify about how for­mer po­lice min­is­ter Nathi Nh­leko al­legedly pushed him out of his job.

“He will tes­tify about how the ren­di­tion case [of five Zim­bab­wean na­tion­als], which was ini­ti­ated by crime in­tel­li­gence, was used as a smoke­screen to get rid of him­self, Sibiya and for­mer top po­lice of­fi­cer Les­lie Maluleke,” said one source.

“He will also tell the com­mis­sion about the po­lit­i­cal pres­sure to drop sev­eral high-pro­file in­ves­ti­ga­tions, in­clud­ing one into the arms deal, and how Nh­leko was will­ing to do what­ever it took for him [Dra­mat] to va­cate the Hawks’ top job. Dra­mat is also ex­pected to tes­tify about how Nh­leko in­ter­fered in the run­ning of the po­lice and the Hawks, and also about how Nh­leko ac­cused him of be­hav­ing like the Scor­pi­ons, which was ac­cused of tar­get­ing politi­cians.”

City Press un­der­stands that Dra­mat, Sibiya and McBride’s tes­ti­mony will place Zuma and Nh­leko at the cen­tre of the cap­ture of law en­force­ment agen­cies. Four highly placed sources told City Press the three would also tes­tify about how Zuma failed to pre­vent state cap­ture and ig­nored warn­ings about it. They said the tes­ti­mony would shed light on how po­lice of­fi­cers and pros­e­cu­tors were in­volved in po­lit­i­cal bat­tles and smear cam­paigns.

“The ev­i­dence by McBride will im­pli­cate Nh­leko in paralysing law en­force­ment agen­cies by hir­ing and fir­ing of­fi­cers in the Hawks. The use of the crime in­tel­li­gence slush fund for po­lit­i­cal cam­paigns and self-en­rich­ment will also be cov­ered in his tes­ti­mony,” said a source.

Other sources fa­mil­iar with Sibiya’s tes­ti­mony told City Press that he would speak about how his prob­lems be­gan af­ter he ar­rested for­mer crime in­tel­li­gence head Richard Md­luli, and in­ves­ti­gated a se­nior pros­e­cu­tor for de­feat­ing the ends of jus­tice.

He will also tes­tify about how sev­eral false cases were opened against him and how Nh­leko, through for­mer Hawks boss Bern­ing Ntle­meza, un­law­fully fired him af­ter crime in­tel­li­gence man­u­fac­tured in­tel­li­gence re­ports and placed him un­der sur­veil­lance in the build-up to his dis­missal.

“He will also re­veal how law firms and a pop­u­lar lawyer were in­stru­men­tal in ex­e­cut­ing the cap­ture of the se­cu­rity clus­ter and, ul­ti­mately, his dis­missal,” an­other source said.

Md­luli’s lawyer, Ike Mot­loung, yes­ter­day said he was not aware of any state­ments made to com­mis­sion in­ves­ti­ga­tors im­pli­cat­ing his client. McBride and Sibiya con­firmed they had been ap­proached to tes­tify be­fore the com­mis­sion, but re­fused to con­firm or deny in­for­ma­tion about the tes­ti­mony they were due to pro­vide. Dra­mat re­fused to com­ment.

Nh­leko did not re­spond to calls, texts and voice­mails to his per­sonal cell­phone num­ber yes­ter­day.

Zondo com­mis­sion spokesper­son Mbuyiselo Stemela said it had not yet fi­nalised its list of wit­nesses who would be the first to tes­tify when the hear­ings re­sumed. Zuma’s spokesman, Vuk­ile Matha­bela did not re­spond to calls and SMSes at the time go­ing to print.

Anwa Dra­mat

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