Talk of the Town

State Capture eroded SA institutio­ns. How revenue service is rebuilding itself

- THE CONVERSATI­ON

South Africa’s Revenue Service is one of many state institutio­ns in SA that have been fingered in the Judicial Commission of Inquiry into State Capture.

In addition, a special commission establishe­d to investigat­e internal governance at the agency found massive failures of governance.

Professor Mills Soko spoke to Commission­er Edward Kieswetter about the turnaround at the state institutio­n.

Mills Soko: You worked as a power station manager at the state utility Eskom which is currently in so much trouble. What was your experience working there? And what comes to mind when you observe the utility today?

Edward Kieswetter: I was 33-yearsold when I was appointed to run a small power station. We had a highly scaffolded environmen­t, surrounded by people who were steeped in practical experience and institutio­nal memory.

In the decade I was there, we transforme­d Eskom from an average performing utility into a globally admired one. By 2000 it was performing at a plant availabili­ty of above 90%, a breakdown rate of 3% or less, and the planned maintenanc­e of 7%.

I am fortunate that I’ve been invited now to serve on the technical committee that the presidency has called together to try and fix the challenges facing electricit­y supply.

During the period of state capture institutio­ns such as Eskom – as well as the South African Revenue Service, the National Prosecutin­g Authority and many others – were hollowed out deliberate­ly and consciousl­y so that they could serve a corrupt purpose.

I can tell you from my own experience that the damage exacted on these institutio­ns is deep and painful, and it will take persistent effort and focus for us to restore and to build for the future.

That’s the challenge of our country. The capability of the state has been weakened by the period of state capture.

But we also have to be honest enough to say there has been a steady decline over a number of years that has brought us to a point where we are largely a state that doesn’t have the capacity it needs to serve the country.

Mills Soko: You were appointed as Commission­er to the South African Revenue Service in May 2019. What have you learnt? Achieved?

Edward Kieswetter: I have to tell you that the actual damage at the South African Revenue Service is deeper than what any commission of inquiry could ever report.

One of the things we were able to do is institute a focused modernisat­ion programme that makes the tax filing obligation for most taxpayers a non-event. We believe the best service is no service. We don’t want to be better at queue management, we want to address the root causes so we don’t have queues.

And so we’ve introduced a value propositio­n for over 3 million taxpayers called auto assessment. We use data and artificial intelligen­ce to select taxpayers for further auditing or investigat­ion. But we’ll also use data and technology to provide a seamless experience for most taxpayers.

Mills Soko: How were you received by employees?

Edward Kieswetter: The sad reality of state capture and the political dynamic of SA at an institutio­nal level is that it forces you to pick a side. And when people pick sides, they lose objectivit­y.

When you come into an organisati­on that has been deliberate­ly divided with a corrupt intent, you have employees who have picked sides. The South African Revenue Service is no different. We still have people who haven’t given up on the affiliatio­n with a particular side or faction.

So a clear message from me to all our leaders and our staff is we are not politician­s: we do our work without fear, favour and prejudice.

Mills Soko: Do we think organisati­ons have been rid of state capture?

Edward Kieswetter: No. I don’t think there are any institutio­ns in SA that have been cured of state capture. The political dynamic in the country today, the contestati­on for power – within a political party or across political parties – is an active attempt to keep alive the endowment that people derived from state capture.

SA is still inflicted by the residue of state capture and the 10-year period of the former administra­tion. It has spilled over into this administra­tion. We only have to look at the level of corruption that manifested during the procuremen­t phase of the Covid response. We have a long way to go to cure ourselves from the ills of state capture.

Mills Soko: How much progress has been made in terms of undoing state capture at the South African Revenue Service?

Edward Kieswetter: The Nugent report made about 27 recommenda­tions. The first was to look at the leadership of the organisati­on, to evaluate Exco. And we have substantiv­ely dealt with that. We reached agreement with a number of senior leaders and we have parted ways.

After years of being deprived of filling critical vacancies because of financial constraint­s, last year we began to start recruiting people and providing some inward mobility for people into more meaningful roles.

We establishe­d a listening campaign where staff could call in and talk, and report certain things that needed to be addressed.

We introduced an employee rights charter that we are socialisin­g through change management.

We also introduced an internal reparation­s process. We have just over 30 individual­s who felt that they were personally compromise­d. We are in the final stages of an external reparation process.

We appointed an advisory committee using eminent jurists independen­t of the South African Revenue Service to take representa­tion from those we have settled with.

We have meetings underway to recoup wasteful and fruitless expenditur­e from a number of executives caught up in this, specifical­ly in relation to the global management consultanc­y firm, Bain & Company.

We have instituted a process of recovering the money plus interest that they paid. And we have handed over the files to the Hawks, the South African Police Services’ Directorat­e for Priority Crime Investigat­ion, and the National Prosecutin­g Authority for further investigat­ion. When the prosecutio­n authority is ready to start prosecutio­n, we will be drawn into this to provide evidence and to support that process.

We’ve also worked with our counterpar­ts in the US about the misdemeano­urs at Bain to try and ensure that Bain is brought to book.

Mills Soko: During the difficult years the South African Revenue Service lost a lot of good people. Have you been able to woo some back?

Edward Kieswetter: One of the things that we are entertaini­ng is to build a pool of so-called grey beards (and female equivalent­s). We want them to be part of a resource from which younger, less experience­d people can draw from.

● This is an excerpt of the Wits Business School Leadership Dialogue. The full interview is at https://bit.ly/KiewetterC­onv Mills Soko is Professor: Internatio­nal Business & Strategy, Wits Business School, University of the Witwatersr­and. This interview first appeared in https://theconvers­ation.com/ and is republishe­d here under a Creative Commons Licence.

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