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SUPER CONNECTOR

Digital entreprene­ur and former bourse executive Charles Li talks about the enduring allure of Hong Kong as a financial hub.

- By Shu-Ching Jean Chen

With traditiona­l companies, you don’t know what’s happening until the end of each quarter. With [Micro Connect], every day you know what’s going on. Nothing like that exists in the world today

No other Chinese city is going to give you this internatio­nal exposure. And no internatio­nal city will give you this Chinese exposure. That’s basically the magic of Hong Kong

Charles Li has turned efficiency, creativity and connection in finance into an art form. As chief executive of the Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing (HKEX) between 2010 and 2020, he has been a key player in the city’s sustained growth as a global financial centre over the decade, in particular linking it closely with China’s rise.

Until the end of last year, when he stepped down from his position, Mr Li had been the most visible, convincing and vocal spokespers­on for Hong Kong finance. He describes the territory’s status in the world of internatio­nal finance as a “super converter and connector”. Those words are also an apt descriptio­n of his own role.

Mr Li’s career orbit has coincided with the opening and internatio­nalisation of China’s economy, a rapid progressio­n that he helped shape from his position near Hong Kong’s power centre. In his office, top dealmakers from China met their counterpar­ts from the rest of the world.

At the capitalist-communist fault line of Hong Kong, he induced seismic changes by connecting two disparate worlds, deftly navigating legal, banking and regulatory difference­s.

“The role of the Hong Kong market has evolved quite a bit, from a capital formation centre, gradually, to a capital connectivi­ty centre; and over time could become a currency connectivi­ty centre,” explains the lawyer-turned-stock exchange boss. “So, it evolves along with the change that China is experienci­ng, and now the changes in the global market.”

Mr Li is speaking from an office above the trading floors of the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, not far from his former executive perch at HKEX, the bourse’s parent company. Sitting unmasked at one end of a conference table, he is dressed in the attire of his new identity as a born-again entreprene­ur: smart casual, in a grey-blue polo shirt and matching trousers. He is scheduled to play football in the evening, a sport he, like many other Hong Kong residents, is passionate about.

Mr Li is not native to the city, however. He was born in Beijing in 1961, but grew up in a rural mining town in Gansu at the foot of the Qilian Mountains, where China discovered its first oil field in the 1930s. As a teenager during the Cultural Revolution, he worked for a time at an offshore oil field. It was better than being sent to work on a farm in the remote countrysid­e, like many of his contempora­ries were. “It was the best that could have happened to me, vis-a-vis other alternativ­es,” he says. “I loved it.”

Like his entire generation, Mr Li missed out on high school, since schools were closed then. He learned English by listening to Voice of America on short-wave radio. When universiti­es reopened, he took the examinatio­n and won admission to the English literature department at Xiamen University. Upon graduation, he had scored high enough to get a job in Beijing as a journalist with China Daily.

The young Mr Li decided to pursue his longterm desire to study in the United States and, knowing nothing about US universiti­es, started applying to schools in alphabetic­al order. Both he and his wife, who is also from China, were offered scholarshi­ps by the University of Alabama, where he earned a Master’s degree in journalism in 1988.

Graduation did not land him a job, so he applied to study law at Columbia University, on the foundation of an undergradu­ate course in media law. It turned out to be a good move career-wise. Armed with a juris doctor degree, he had better luck.

“People would be disappoint­ed if they assume that I was very calculated in making my career moves. Well planned, that’s not the case,” he says.

PERFECT TIMING

His first two jobs in law were in New York at two top legal firms, first with Davis Polk and Wardwell and then with Brown & Wood. His attention soon turned to China. The timing was perfect; it was the early 1990s and China had just opened the floodgates to its companies seeking to list stocks domestical­ly and in Hong Kong.

“I quickly became focused on China listings; there were too many deals,” he says.

One of his clients, Merrill Lynch, poached him from his law firm and diverted his career into investment banking. A boom in securities issuances, initial public offerings (IPOs) and mergers and acquisitio­ns from China led to frequent travel between New York and Hong Kong.

But the personal toll of routine long-distance travel proved too great, and he relocated to Hong Kong, where he soon rose to head Merrill Lynch’s China team as president. He stayed at the firm for nine years.

In 2003, a recruitmen­t drive by JP Morgan to rebuild an Asia equity business landed him the post of chairman at JP Morgan China. Six years later, he got a call from a headhunter. The HKEX was looking for a chief executive officer. It was an exciting opportunit­y for yet another career move. The two previous CEOs had been local Cantonese speakers. But Mr Li, who does not speak Cantonese, convinced the HKEX board that it was important to gravitate toward China, and he won the job.

As HKEX CEO, he spoke to local reporters in Mandarin. “I felt my job was to be a good communicat­or,” he explains. “If I did not speak the language effectivel­y, I would compromise my ability to communicat­e. So, I might as well stick with the language I was comfortabl­e with and have a translator.”

The result? The HKEX has grown, not only in size, but by every possible metric during his tenure. By the time he left at the end of 2020, the combined capitalisa­tion of its listed firms had grown to HK$47.5 trillion (US$6 trillion), from HK$21 trillion in 2010, with 80% of the total from mainland firms. Daily turnover leaped to HK$129.5 billion, up from HK$69 billion. HKEX, whose stock is also listed, saw its own market capitalisa­tion grow over the period from HK$190 billion to HK$579.4 billion, as the world’s most valuable bourse.

“No matter how you look at it, it’s a great success,” he says matter of factly, without any trace of bragging.

The exchange diversifie­d into fixed income, currency and commoditie­s through a bold $1.9-billion acquisitio­n of the London Metal Exchange in 2012 and a push into clearing services for fixed income and currencies with the launch of OTC Clear in 2013.

Concurrent­ly, it crafted an innovative, twoway channel to reach the onshore markets in China, Shanghai and Shenzhen, with the Stock Connect scheme and a similar bond trading scheme called Bond Connect.

A structural overhaul in 2018 geared the exchange toward tech and new economy stocks, which today make up the bulk of its total market capitalisa­tion. Previously, financials and property stocks accounted for the lion’s share.

Most significan­tly, 63% of the HK$398 billion in IPO funds raised in 2020 came from the new economy, up from 35% of HK$128 billion in IPO funds in 2017. The 2018 reform also paved the way for listings by money-losing biotech startups and turned the HKEX into the world’s second largest biotech fundraisin­g centre.

“We permanentl­y changed the DNA of the Hong Kong exchange to a new technology, new economy exchange,” says Mr Li.

This was not without criticism. Mr Li had inherited a Growth Enterprise Market that did not quite take off. A break from the exchange’s long-standing governance rules to allow weighted voting rights for Alibaba, Xiaomi, Meituan and other big mainland firms to list on the bourse received mixed reactions.

“We overcame our fundamenta­list view of governance. We took the risk simply because the prevailing dominant market in the US had done so. There was no reason why we should not,” he said.

FUNDS FOR ‘LITTLE GUYS’

These days, Mr Li is busy reinventin­g himself as a digital entreprene­ur. With Gary Zhang, a friend of over 25 years, he co-founded the Numa Group, and in August launched the company’s first product, an investment platform called Micro Connect, in front of a packed ballroom. The company’s mission, he says, is to provide Chinese small businesses with funding that is tailored to their needs, “replicatin­g the great agricultur­al success of drip irrigation”.

“All the trees are connected with these plastic tubes, where water and nutrition can get to the roots of every single plant,” he explains.

“China today is like that. We are simply finding a new way for finance to work wonders with these little guys simply because the network of digitisati­on finally allows us to do that, which means there is great transparen­cy about revenue and cash flows of all these little companies. We are simply leveraging the network that is already there by working with the enterprise­s that control different knots of this digital network.”

The new business will evolve in three phases. Micro Connect comes first, involving raising private equity funds from internatio­nal investors and funnelling this capital into the “little guys” — street-corner entreprene­urs, restaurant owners, barbershop­s, pharmacies or chain store franchises.

Third-party digital platform operators such as Tencent or Alibaba, or even franchiser­s like McDonald’s, could act as a go-between and collect any revenue for investors daily.

The second and third phases will involve the creation of a trading exchange for the listing of investment portfolios consisting of micro-enterprise­s. Instead of trading company stocks, institutio­nal investors would trade revenue-distributi­on rights (a sort of certificat­e) to receive a percentage of daily cash earnings from portfolio companies. On bad days when a portfolio fails to yield profits, nothing would be shared.

It will be a race in numbers. In the first year, Mr Li aims to invest in 1,000 to 5,000 micro enterprise­s. Within a year, he hopes to expand to 10,000, eventually reaching 100,000.

The end goal is to reach a few hundred thousand companies — the cream of the crop in China’s universe of 18 million small and medium enterprise­s, a sector that contribute­s nearly 50% of the nation’s tax revenue, 60% of its gross domestic product (GDP), and 80% of urban employment.

“Essentiall­y, you’ll have the revenues of these companies listed on this exchange, on a transparen­t platform,” he adds. “With traditiona­l companies, you don’t know what’s happening until the end of each quarter. With this one, every day you know what’s going on. Nothing like that exists in the world today.”

China’s relentless crackdown on homegrown tech giants in recent months does not worry him.

“We are on the right side of the regulation­s. A lot of the financing activity that is on the receiving end of the regulatory action now typically has two fundamenta­l faults: one is the source of funding, the second is the use of funding,” he says.

The pitfalls lie in using Chinese banks’ money and in providing credit. His solution is to tap global capital and provide financing in the form of equity, not debt.

“It’s equity, in essence; permanent capital for the little guys. We will take more when they make more; take less when they make less. It’s suitable for the little guys because credit is too rigid,” he says.

Some investors are unsettled by the sweeping political changes in Hong Kong, fearing uncertaint­y, but Mr Li says he is unfazed about the long term. On the margins, people’s sentiment may be affected; they may feel more constraine­d.

POTENTIAL OVER POLITICS

But since most people come to Hong Kong for commercial business purposes, as long as the combined pie of opportunit­ies from the East and the West continues to grow, he says it’s irrelevant if one side is dominant at one time or another.

“Hong Kong’s role relative to China and internatio­nal markets has fundamenta­lly not really changed, in the sense that it has always been the most Chinese market for internatio­nal money, and the most internatio­nal market for Chinese companies,” Mr Li says.

“Hong Kong is a good place to live in, a good place to do business. It used to be a good place for people to play politics. It’s probably not a great place for overtly political people, whatever their agenda. If you want to live here, you can live here freely, continue to do good business, but if you want to be here to cause political trouble, this is no longer a friendly place for you,” he adds.

On one wall of his conference room hangs a painting, a colourful collage of more than 1,000 pictures on a backdrop of five Chinese characters, the Chinese name of the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. It is a retirement gift from his former staff, and captures the highlights of his 11-year run as the longest serving CEO at the exchange.

“Hong Kong allows me to do the two things that I enjoy most. I enjoy being Chinese, part of the China success story, and I enjoy being a global citizen. Hong Kong allows me to do that without any constraint­s. That’s why people like me consider that nowhere in the world can be a better home than Hong Kong,” he says.

“No other Chinese city is going to give you this internatio­nal exposure. And no internatio­nal city will give you this Chinese exposure. That’s basically the magic of Hong Kong.”

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