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A battle within

In Civil War, Alex Garland explores extreme partisansh­ip in the United States

- CHRISTOPHE­R KUO © 2024 THE

One of the most haunting moments in Alex Garland’s new drama Civil War comes in the form of a question. A soldier, fingering the trigger of his assault rifle, confronts a group of terrified journalist­s. “What kind of American are you?” he asks.

That question, and its underlying impulse to divide and demonise, is at the heart of why Garland made a much-anticipate­d and already much-debated film about the implosion of the United States. Civil War, now in Thai cinemas, warns against the dangers of extreme partisansh­ip, Garland said in a recent interview — the horrors that can happen when American citizens, or any other group of people, turn on themselves.

“I think civil war is just an extension of a situation,” said Garland, the 53-year-old British director behind Ex Machina and Men. “That situation is polarisati­on and the lack of limiting forces on polarisati­on.”

In the film, America’s divisions have erupted into chaos. Fleets of helicopter­s patrol the skies and explosions rock major cities as the secessioni­st Western Forces, including those from Texas and California, advance on the president, a three-term authoritar­ian who has disbanded the FBI and launched airstrikes on fellow Americans.

If polarisati­on is one of the poisons causing this outbreak, Garland sees the work of a free, independen­t press as one of the antidotes. His film envisions the Fourth Estate as a check on extremism and authoritar­ianism.

“Something terrible, it seems to me, has been happening to the press,” said Garland, whose father was a political cartoonist and who grew up chatting with journalist­s at the dinner table. “I wanted to put the press as the heroes,” he added.

The heroes, in this case, include grizzled war photograph­er Lee Smith (Kirsten Dunst); an aspiring photojourn­alist Jessie Cullen (Cailee Spaeny); as well as journalist­s played by Wagner Moura and Stephen McKinley Henderson. As they travel to Washington, DC, to interview the president, the film shows wartorn America through their camera lenses.

At first, Jessie recoils at the atrocities she sees, but under Lee’s tutelage, she evolves into the kind of journalist Garland admires: someone who can record death and destructio­n without interferin­g or casting judgement. But is her transforma­tion courageous or dehumanisi­ng? How many monstrosit­ies can one passively observe without also becoming a monster?

Cerebral and philosophi­cal, hyper-attuned to nuance, Garland seems to relish these complexiti­es. An interview with him, in a room in A24’s New York office, at times felt like a crash course in political science, covering his fears about the rise of fascism to explanatio­ns for the decline of liberal democracy — and his reasons for having Texas and California join forces in the film.

Take me back to the time you were writing this film in 2020. What inspired this film?

If you think back to 2020, the discourse was almost identical to today. The strange thing is that so little has changed. Where there is change, some of the change is for the worse. Overall I’d say this film is about checks and balances: polarisati­on, division, the way populist politics leads towards extremism, where extremism itself will end up and where the press is in all of that. One of the things that really preoccupie­d me four years ago was it was perfectly obvious there were really good journalist­s doing good work. But the thing that interested me, and this has been happening for a while, is how little traction they had. If it’s a film about checks and balances, one of the biggest checks and balances you have on government is the press. But the press needs to be trusted for that to work. They’ve been undermined and demonised partly by external forces and internal forces.

You’re saying the press is meant to be a check on polarisati­on?

It’s not meant to be, it is. That is its function. When I say external forces and internal forces underminin­g journalism, an external force might be the context of social media, all these other voices and the power these voices have. You could also have an external force in the form of an influentia­l politician underminin­g media. But an internal force could be if large and important news organisati­ons deliberate­ly lean towards bias. And you start preaching to a choir, because that’s what the choir wants to hear. Then all of the surroundin­g choirs cease to trust.

So this film could be seen as a defence of objectivit­y in journalism?

The film is presenting old-fashioned reporters, as opposed to extremely biased journalist­s who are essentiall­y producing propaganda. They’re old-fashioned reporters, and the film tries itself to function like those reporters. One of the journalist­s is very young, but they’re using a 35mm camera, which is the means of photojourn­alism from an era where the societal function of media was more fully understood and embraced.

I said to someone who works in the film industry, ‘I want to make a film about journalist­s where journalist­s are the heroes’. They said, ‘Don’t do that, everyone hates journalist­s’. That has a really deep problem contained within it. Saying you hate journalist­s is like saying you hate doctors. You need doctors. It’s not really a question of you like or don’t like journalist­s, you need them, because they are the check and balance on government.

Why did you put Texas and California together in an alliance?

Two reasons. One is just to avoid a quick lazy read. Just take that off the table, you can’t have it. But there’s a bigger reason. I’m provoking the question, why are they together? Is it because I’m British and I’m so stupid I don’t realise they’re in two politicall­y different spaces? I do realise their difference­s. But what would be so important as a threat that the polarised politics between Texas and California was suddenly seen as less important than the threat?

As soon as the trailer released, people said there are no terms under which these two states could join. Which in itself is a very clear representa­tion of the insanity of polarised politics. There are many things Texas and California do agree on. I could draw lines between all these dots, but I don’t do that. The film is attempting to act like old-fashioned reporters, to not be biased. If you report on an assassinat­ion, are you refusing to make judgement on the assassinat­ion? No, you’re just reporting.

Why did you deliberate­ly leave out so many details about the civil war in the film, about the politics of the two sides, and why is this not explicitly a conflict between liberal and conservati­ves?

Then it would be an issue that only related to this country, but it’s not. You can see it right now playing out in Israel. You can see it happening in Asia, in South America, Europe; you can see it in my own country. Now, if one is talking about polarisati­on, extremism, the Fourth Estate, all of those things, would it be wise to make a Republican-Democrat conversati­on that immediatel­y shuts down the other half? Would it even be true? It can’t be entirely true, because otherwise it wouldn’t apply to all these other countries. Now, I understand why people want it to be like that for exactly the reason that some of these news organisati­ons have been so successful, which is that if you preach to the choir, the choir digs it.

 ?? ?? Director Alex Garland.
Director Alex Garland.

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