So how do you measure where you stand?

that I don’t live that way.’ It’s very bleak, and there’s nothing to look forward to but the next hit for Barb. So when she’s not getting high, she starts focusing all that beautiful energy that you could focus on wellness or helping people on revenge and resentment. It’s pretty textbook that energy needs to be focused somewhere purposeful or you’re going to get high again.

How long have you been sober?

Well, this is where it gets interesting. I have come to the conclusion, throughout many years of sobriety, that time does not treat nor does it barely heal this thing. Otherwise I wouldn’t have relapsed and gotten arrested almost 10 years ago to the day. Demi Lovato, bless her heart, I’m so supportive of her, wouldn’t have relapsed after six years if it mattered how long a person was sober.

What you’re doing in the day that you’ve been given that’s taking you away from a drink or a drug, and what are you doing that’s taking you back toward one. Are you helping other people? Because in this whole world of recovery you cannot keep it unless you give it away. You can’t like hold your recovery to yourself. | Actress

Do you think your allegations about your father, which got sharp pushback, would have been perceived differently in the #MeToo era?

I think that if High on Arrival came out now, people would not have been

speculating on whether I was a liar or not. I remember watching one of those evening magazine shows and they actually had a body language expert who was looking at clips of me talking on Oprah and seeing whether or not from my body language if I was lying. I don’t think that would be considered appropriate today. So I think it would have been a very different experience. But I’m not sure.

“I think that if came out now, people would not have been speculating on whether I was a liar...”

What else are you up to now?

My life is fantastic. I’ve been in the same house for 18 years. I have a 31-year-old son named Shane, who is a spectacular human being. I have a bunch of dogs. I’m in relationships with my sisters. I mean, it’s an incredible thing.