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Lord Paddy Ashdown

Politician and peer on new book, Nein!: Standing up to Hitler 1935-1944

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army officers. They were armed by Canaris and were ready in the Reich Chanceller­y. With a reserve of about 150 men, the plan was to capture Hitler and have him declared mad by Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s father, who was a psychologi­st. There was also a little coup within the coup that would have killed him on the way.

During that day, ammunition rounds were being pushed into magazines by the plotters with literally 30 minutes to go. However, in the last half-hour Chamberlai­n proposed the final meeting for the Munich Agreement. Suddenly the Sudetenlan­d was given away without a shot being fired, and the coup collapsed.

This coup was backed by all the German generals in the army, all the German commanders of the forces in Berlin as well as the capital’s chief of police and the Foreign Office. This was huge high-level support.

TO WHAT EXTENT WAS THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT’S DISMISSAL Of REPEATED GERMAN WARNINGS RESPONSIBL­E FOR THE OUTBREAK Of WAR AND ITS SUBSEQUENT COURSE?

Before the war, Chamberlai­n saw himself as a great peacemaker, which was not a sinful or evil thing to do. He didn’t trust these people in Germany and believed Hitler was open to rational argument, but he never was: Hitler was determined on war whatever happened. With Chamberlai­n, you can either call it vanity or a desperate attempt not to repeat the carnage of WWI, and there’s no doubt that he knew about the September 1938 plot. I think that he flew to Munich in part to frustrate the plot and believed there was a better chance of avoiding war by having the peace conference. This was a catastroph­ic misjudgmen­t of Hitler’s personalit­y.

As for British Intelligen­ce, the Venlo Incident devastated them in November 1939. This catastroph­e was an extraordin­ary counterint­elligence coup by Reinhard Heydrich when he captured two British Intelligen­ce officers and it wracked MI6 across Europe. It was deeply embarrassi­ng to MI6 and Chamberlai­n when it was discovered that he had been seeking an early peace around that time. After that incident, every piece of informatio­n the British received from the Germans was taken to be another example of misinforma­tion. You’ll find that with intelligen­ces services today, where people don’t believe the informatio­n they’re receiving because they think it is too good to be true.

ADMIRAL WILHELM CANARIS EMERGES AS ONE Of THE MOST IMPORTANT RESISTANCE FIGURES IN THE book. WHAT ARE your THOUGHTS ON HIM?

He’s the most multilayer­ed character. He had an extraordin­arily adventurou­s youth and became one of the prime movers of the extreme right-wing movement in Germany, but he was a man who was constantly changing.

It’s classic for a spy chief to be a chameleon who is always changing his position, but it wasn’t from opportunis­m. Towards the end of his life it was from a position of moral commitment.

As head of the Abwehr he was an extraordin­arily powerful figure. However, he became a sort of hermit, waiting for his close friend Heydrich to take him away to the gallows. This was a result of strain, duplicity and serving a master like Hitler while also underminin­g him.

He’s a very strange personalit­y, but he is fascinatin­g and mercurial.

He was greatly loved by those who served under him and admired for his moral courage. Neverthele­ss, he was undoubtedl­y capable of doing things that were not always good in the short term in order to pursue a moral course in the long run.

“In the end the enlightene­d always win through and the age of populism Will be replaced by one that we can have easier confidence in”

WHAT IS your OPINION Of THE high-level GERMANS WHO PLOTTED HITLER’S downfall?

These were not flawless people. They were, in part, involved in getting Hitler to power and the army officers were partially complicit in turning a blind eye to some of the slaughters.

Neverthele­ss, they had the moral courage to see the resistance through to the very end, at the cost of their lives. It seems to me to be a shocking tragedy, if not a scandal, that their memory has completely vanished.

I also have to say that younger officers like Henning von Tresckow showed outstandin­g moral courage, but they were almost all slaughtere­d or committed suicide after the 20 July plot in 1944. If they hadn’t died I really think they would have been part of a golden generation when Germany was reconstruc­ted after the war.

you have previously SAID THAT “THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE 1930S AND TODAY ARE FRIGHTENIN­G”. TO WHAT EXTENT do you THINK THAT IS TRUE?

We do have stable ages, and we have clear moral compasses by which to carry out our public and private actions. There are also moments in history when these are swept aside. We call this an ‘Age of Populism’ and I think it is.

I am struck by the similariti­es between the 1930s and the age we live in. Having said that I do enter a strong caveat.

First of all, I’m not comparing anybody with Hitler. He was utterly unique in his evil and combined an almost genius for the management of power. There is no such person around today intent on war, although one might argue that the conditions are ripe for one to emerge. The second thing is that the Weimar Republic was a very rickety form of democracy. Our democracie­s are not like that and they could not be so easily overturned today. I am sure that this could not happen in the same way that it happened in the 1930s.

I’m also quite sure that in the end the enlightene­d always win through, and the age of populism will be replaced by one that we can have easier confidence in. In drawing these parallels I’m not saying that we are bound to the same destinatio­n. We need to remember that even in the worst of times there are people who have great moral courage and are prepared to risk everything.

 ??  ?? One of the men involved in the 20 July bomb plot goes before the judges
One of the men involved in the 20 July bomb plot goes before the judges
 ??  ?? One of Wilhelm Canaris’s most significan­t acts to undermine Hitler was to personally persuade Francisco Franco to not join the Axis powers or allow German troops passage through Spain
One of Wilhelm Canaris’s most significan­t acts to undermine Hitler was to personally persuade Francisco Franco to not join the Axis powers or allow German troops passage through Spain
 ??  ?? Lord Ashdown speaking about Nein! with History Of War’s features editor Tom Garner during a live Q&A session at the Malvern Festival of Military History
Lord Ashdown speaking about Nein! with History Of War’s features editor Tom Garner during a live Q&A session at the Malvern Festival of Military History
 ??  ?? Nein! Standing Up To Hitler 1935-44 is published by Harpercoll­ins and is on sale now. For more informatio­n visit: www.harpercoll­ins.co.uk
Nein! Standing Up To Hitler 1935-44 is published by Harpercoll­ins and is on sale now. For more informatio­n visit: www.harpercoll­ins.co.uk

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