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‘We must ensure inclusion becomes part of the way we work’

Jonathan Mildenhall, Airbnb’s chief marketing officer and this year’s Creative Effectiven­ess jury president, has shone a spotlight on diversity among Lions judges. He puts his concerns to Papa

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JM Why are we still talking about diversity and inclusion? What needs to be done to move the dial to drive tangible change?

JP There’s an increased understand­ing now that creativity drives business results and that creativity can’t flourish to its full potential without diversity. I think there are two chapters to this story – one is about the talent base in the industry and the other is about the representa­tion of people in the work itself. Both are complex issues.

I did sense a shift in the last 12 months from talk to action around gender. A couple of years ago, this was a hot topic. Today, we talk less about why gender equality might be a good idea and more about what people are actually doing about it, in small ways and big ways. For example, you can get access to great unconsciou­s-bias training online for free – that was unheard of a couple of years ago.

People are sharing online toolkits on this stuff – it’s coming from the bottom up. I’ve seen some incredible work on gender equality in creative agencies. The gender issue is a mainstream management focus now.

I think it helps when the issue is not “just” an industry issue. It needs to be something people become more aware of outside their profession­al lives.

However, there’s work to be done to ensure diversity is considered in all decisions made by those in creative businesses. In some ways, there’s a legacy of the way things once were affecting the industry, but we must look ahead and ensure inclusion simply becomes part of the way we work.

I’m excited by the number of discussion­s and events at this year’s festival which deal in practical steps to encourage real change in the industry.

JM Do you have a personal story of why diversity matters that you would like to share?

JP I’m from Brazil, and it makes me proud to come from a country which owes so much to its diversity. Our colonial heritage means modern Brazilian culture is infused with African, European and Asian traditions. I’m always surprised that more people don’t appreciate how sizeable the Portuguese, Italian, German, Spanish, African, Japanese, Lebanese and Jewish communitie­s in Brazil are. It is this rich mix in our heritage that has permitted our society to progress, as well as creating the exciting, vibrant creative energy that Brazil and its people are famous for.

JM What has Cannes Lions been doing to promote diversity and inclusion within the creative industry?

JP As a festival, we’ve done a lot of work to improve gender equality in our juries and on our stage with initiative­s such as [sponsorshi­p scheme] See It Be It and the Glass Lion. However, we know diversity doesn’t end there and we’re always working on ideas for future initiative­s as we seek to continue to be a platform for diversity.

JM Why does it take so long for festivals such as Cannes Lions to create sustainabl­e change?

JP I think we have to be realistic about the extent of our influence – we’re not here as lawmakers policing the industry. Everything we do, we do in partnershi­p with the industry – and it is true that we can act as a catalyst, as I think we have on the gender issue.

Think about how the gender issue has changed in the last few years. See It Be It was launched in 2014 and, at the time, it was a small thing – yet it’s gaining such great traction and See It Be It events are happening internatio­nally. Response to See It Be It led to the launch of the Glass Lion in 2015. And now we have 43.5% women on juries. We couldn’t have done that two years ago. We needed the industry to get behind us on that challenge. And it did.

So we do have to be careful to strike a balance – of making positive steps but always taking the industry with us.

JM Gender equality still eludes us, yet the industry has been having the debate at Cannes Lions for at least two decades. Do you think inclusion around ethnicity will take as long?

JP I hope not. But you could say that the ethnicity discussion is more complicate­d than gender. The personal narratives involved are so different, it is perhaps harder to get the global community to corral around singular messages and initiative­s.

That said, I think we have to be optimistic, and it starts by acknowledg­ing where the situation is now. Data is invaluable here and, the more that people like Mckinsey report the link between diversity and profitabil­ity, the more this will become a business imperative instead of an ideologica­l nice-to-have.

I’ve read that gender-diverse companies outperform by 15% and ethnically diverse companies by 35%. I can only hope that these figures are enough to accelerate change above and beyond what we’ve seen across all industries, not just advertisin­g.

JM What would you do that would end the debate on diversity and inclusion at Cannes Lions once and for all?

JP If we talk about industry diversity only in the context of diversity at Cannes Lions, we’re not doing this important subject justice. Our festival is a global festival with nearly 100 countries represente­d – each of them has its own perspectiv­e on diversity.

We work to deliver a festival that is fully representa­tive of the global creative industry, and Cannes Lions is at its best when we help the industry be the best it can be. Where it is possible for us to promote or even instigate change in a way that will further the campaign for creativity as a force for business, for change and for good, then – provided we have the support of the industry – we will always do it.

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