I get Instagram messages saying ‘you inspired me to get clean’
Drag Race UK winner The Vivienne talks to ABI JACKSON about overcoming drug addiction, mental health, and getting to grips with money
RUPAUL’S Drag Race UK isn’t just about the entertainment – it’s a glimpse into the lives behind the showstopping make-up and outfits too. When The Vivienne opened up about overcoming drug addiction during season one in 2019, it started a conversation about an issue often hidden.
“I didn’t really expect to talk about it, but when you’re on a reality TV show you do open up a lot more, because it’s just a pressure cooker of emotions and personalities,” she says now.
The Vivienne is glad she did though, as it has enabled her to show others you can beat these things. It took hitting “rock bottom” and being warned she’d be “dead by 30”, if she didn’t stop, for The Vivienne to start turning things around – but she did.
She got clean, found love with David Ludford (they’re now married), and of course became the UK’S first Drag Race winner.
She still gets at least 30 messages a day on Instagram, “saying, ‘You inspired me to get clean,’ or, ‘Your story really inspired me’. I love being able to help people with that,” adds the performance artist, now 28.
“I also get messages off dads who have just discovered their son really loves Drag Race and they think maybe they’re gay, [saying] ‘I’ve tried everything to try and help him along, what can I do?’ When I reply, I’ll usually say something like, ‘You’re doing everything right.
“They’re young, they’ll find their people, they’ll find their tribe, they’ll find out who they are – as long as you are there to love and support them, you’re doing everything right’.”
BREAKING THE TABOO
Today, The Vivienne is talking about another element of this journey: personal finances problems. She’s teamed up with Experian on a campaign encouraging people to be ‘money positive’ – she knows first-hand how quickly things can spiral, and how much harder it is when no one talks about it. After leaving school at 16 and moving from North Wales to Liverpool, The Vivienne says like lots of people, she was unprepared for the realities of financial independence. “I didn’t really get any training, you know, I wasn’t taught anything about all that at school.
You know you’re going to have bills to deal with, [but] I always looked at it like, ‘Oh look, this flat is £400 a month, I can afford that’ – I kind of forgot there was council tax on top of that, water bills, electricity, wifi, your phone, all these bills.
“And I wasn’t really prepared for the repercussions that would come if you didn’t pay all those bills.”
LOSING SLEEP OVER MONEY
One of those repercussions was constant anxiety.
“It’s horrible. I think money worries have one of the biggest effects on people’s mental health. You kind of know that what you’re doing isn’t great, but if you’re not in a position to deal with it, or having those conversations... I used to lose sleep over it. I’d be scared if there was a knock at the door. I wasn’t educated on how to deal with those things.”
There were practical repercussions too, as mounting unpaid bills had dented her credit score. A reality check came when she tried to take out a new phone contract, but was refused when she failed the credit score check.
“It was a hard lesson. I’m only now really getting in a good financial position, because I’ve learned about all that stuff.
“My dream now is me and David want to buy a house, so [getting my finances in order] has been really important, to make sure I can set up for a mortgage in the future.”
For The Vivienne, being ‘money positive’ means lots of things – including talking and taking positive action.
She says she wishes she’d known sooner that there are solutions, like payment plans to help you pay off mounting debts.
As someone who knows the value of speaking up about hidden issues, she’s glad to be part of the conversation.
“Another reason I wanted to get on board with this campaign was so I could really have open and honest conversations about what kind of mess I got into, and maybe share some knowledge with younger people, and older people who may still not be super educated on personal finances.
“There is such a social stigma around [money problems], but maybe if I’d talked more about it back then, I would have been in a much better mental state about it. But I was so scared to talk about it.
“I think when you do have those conversations, you can kind of go, ‘Oh right, so there are solutions out there, there is a way I can get myself out of this’. It’s a great feeling, and it puts you in such a better position for your financial future.”
I used to lose sleep over it. I’d be scared if there was a knock at the door.
The Vivienne on her money worries
■ Experian Boost is a free new service that can help people boost their credit score through sharing more information on some of their regular payments, such as Netflix, Spotify and council tax. Visit experian.co.uk/consumer/ experian-boost.html
Series 2 of Rupaul’s Drag Race UK is on BBC iplayer, with new episodes landing on Thursdays
CIRCLE, open chat, winky face, double heart emoji, end message.
Yes, it’s the return of the popularity contest that sees people in separate apartments of a Salford tower block communicate solely through a voiceactivated platform called The Circle and then get increasingly irate and paranoid.
Everyone narrates their messages and emojis out loud, and by the end of the series you’ll be doing it too.
This time, celebrities will be taking part for charity, while Emma Willis will occasionally be talking to them from a new control centre that looks rather like the Big Brother Diary
THE CELEBRITY CIRCLE FOR STAND UP TO CANCER Channel 4, 9.15pm
Room (may it rest in peace).
Fighting for popularity – which is surely part of their day job anyway – are Denise Van Outen, Duncan James, rapper Lady Leshurr, Youtuber Saffron Barker, Drag Race star Baga Chipz, Loose Women Kaye Adams and Nadia Sawalha, Radio 1 DJS Rickie Haywood-williams and Melvin Odoom, and reality show mates Sam Thompson and Pete Wicks.
Not all of them are playing themselves though, but will the
Lady Leshurr catfish be spotted and reeled in?
Only Denise, Duncan and Saffron have decided to be themselves. Lady Leshurr is pretending to be Big Narstie, while Rickie and Melvin are together and playing as will.i.am, Baga Chipz is pretending to be Kim Woodburn, Kaye and Nadia are The GC, and Sam and Pete hope everyone will believe they are Countdown’s Rachel Riley.
As the games begin and the profile pics go up, everyone is rightly suspicious, but they must immediately judge each other.
Bring on the rating and slating.