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Colourism is one of the last taboos

Actress Ruth Negga and film-maker Rebecca Hall chatted to GEORGIA HUMPHREYS

- About their new film Passing

BRINGING Passing to the screen has been a long and intense experience for Rebecca Hall.

The London-born actress, writer and director, 39, first read Nella Larsen’s 1929 novel the film is based on 13 years ago, when she was looking into her own heritage and identity.

“I was at the beginning of asking my family questions because I didn’t really have answers about the history of racial passing in my own family and my grandfathe­r, who was African-American and passed for white,” says the Vicky Cristina Barcelona star, whose parents are the late British director Sir Peter Hall, and Detroit-born opera singer Maria Ewing.

“Now, a lot of those questions have been answered. I’ve done the historical explanatio­n, and also a certain amount of emotional excavation that parallels this story that I got to put on film with these remarkable actors.”

Passing is Rebecca’s directoria­l debut (she also wrote the script) and tells the story of two black women living in 1920s New York – Irene Redfield (Tessa Thompson) and Clare Kendry (Ruth Negga), who can both “pass” as white.

Set during the height of the Harlem Renaissanc­e, the former childhood friends choose to live on opposite sides of the colour line; Clare has climbed the social ladder after “passing” as a white woman, and married a rich white man named John, played by Alexander Skarsgard who knows nothing of her black ancestry.

Meanwhile, Irene is living as a black woman in a Harlem townhouse with her loving, doctor husband, Brian (Andre Holland), and their two children.

When the two women are reunited after a chance encounter, their lives become intertwine­d once again.

The film offers a fascinatin­g exploratio­n of friendship, obsession, race, and identity and raises poignant questions about colourism; the notion that individual­s within a racial group face more prejudice if they have a darker skin tone.

Colourism is regarded as one of the less-talked-about aspects of discrimina­tion, even though it arguably remains massively present in our world today – especially when it comes to casting in Hollywood.

Rebecca decided to make Passing a black and white film, because it struck her that “the most interestin­g way to make a movie that dealt with colourism is to take the colour out of it and render the whole world abstract”.

“That doesn’t mean it’s not emotionall­y true, doesn’t mean it’s not real, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with truth, but it’s like sometimes you need a poem to understand the essence of something,” she elaborates.

“It doesn’t necessaril­y have to reflect exact reality in order to reveal the truth.

“After all, black and white film isn’t black and white – it’s grey. Nothing is black and white.

“Nobody can be reduced to a single definition and no one is simply the one thing that society chooses to approximat­e.”

She points out that people who live in these “in-between spaces” are contending with questions of, “’Am I this? Am I that? How is the world seeing me? How do I feel in relation to that?”.

She continues: “Even I feel that, because everyone forever assumes, ‘daughter of a beautiful English rose’, and I’m like, ‘There’s this whole other side to me that’s very different to that’.

“It’s possible to contain many aspects of humanity, and actually, we all do.

“You don’t have to have as complicate­d a story as mine to feel that.”

“Colourism is one of the last taboos,” adds Irish star Ruth, 39, who was nominated for an Academy Award in 2017 for her role in Loving.

“No one likes talking about it, because it essentiall­y has a very ugly history, adjacent to whiteness, and therefore you get rewarded for that.

“When you say it out loud, bluntly, it’s ridiculous.

“It’s absurd, it’s racist, it’s dangerous.

“And yet, we’ve all internalis­ed it, and you see it still; ad campaigns, in my industry, and I’m sure I must have benefited from being a lighterski­nned person.

“No one wants to talk about it, because it’s an embarrassi­ng thing, because whether we like it or not, we’re all complicit in it.

“I think this is another absurdity that the film is revealing, and hopefully, people will talk about more openly.”

For Alabama-born André Holland, famous for his role in the Oscar-winning film Moonlight, the discussion­s around race and racial violence that his character Brian has with his sons piqued his interest.

“That felt like one that I was very familiar with,” notes the 41-year-old. “It was a conversati­on that I had with my parents when I was growing up, and so that really grabbed me.”

He recalls how, when he first spoke about Passing with Rebecca, she explained to him why the novel had spoken to her so deeply.

“I’m really sensitive about black material being told by black people.

“I feel like, if you’re going to tell a story about black people, you’ve got to really love black people.

“And so, when I sat down with her, right away I said ‘What is it about this story that makes it feel so personal to you?’

And once she told me about her family and that connection, I thought, ‘OK, she’s really inside of this story, and I think she’s well equipped to tell it’.”

He admits he was “completely shocked”, as he previously had no idea about her family history, and the self-discovery she had been on.

“I remember we met in a hotel, and I was like, ‘OK white lady, tell me why you want to do this black movie?’

“But it was really eye-opening for me to hear what her experience has been. It definitely made me feel a bit more trusting upfront.

“Anytime you have a deep, personal, familial, emotional connection to the material, whatever it is, usually, the product is going to be much more interestin­g.

“So, I felt much more at ease.”

Even I feel that, because everyone forever assumes, ‘daughter of a beautiful English rose’, and I’m like, ‘There’s this whole other side to me that’s very different to that’. Director Rebecca Hall

Passing is in selected cinemas now and on Netflix from November 10

IT is Halloween for Doctor Who and all across the universe terrifying forces are stirring and an ancient evil is breaking free.

“It’s bigger and better than ever,” says Doctor Who star Jodie Whittaker. “It’s my final (full) series, there will be questions asked, there will be answers, there will be exclamatio­n marks... and I think that in itself will pique your curiosity.”

She adds: “I think self-discovery is the biggest journey the Doctor goes on this series. A self-discovery rollercoas­ter!”

Packed with action, humour, terrifying new villains and iconic returning monsters such as the Sontarans and the Weeping Angels, the 13th series of Doctor Who begins tomorrow and tells one story across a vast canvas.

Jodie says: “We started filming late because of Covid, so starting was a tentative time because none of us had shot during the pandemic.

“Knowing it was my last, I knew it would be very different because we weren’t able to travel, we couldn’t be tactile in that way we were.

“But what was immediatel­y reassuring is as soon as you got on set, no matter if the logistics or the face of the show seemed different because of masks and all of that, all of the heart and all the love was still there and it was still great fun.

“We were able to be safe as we could be and as caring as we could be and not lose the atmosphere on the set. It was such a pleasure to be around people, so I was delighted!

“It was emotional to start with because you hadn’t seen anyone and everyone has gone through so much to get to the first day, and you want to make sure you’re not the person to make a mistake as the domino effect can be so catastroph­ic on the set.”

Comedian John Bishop is also stepping into the Tardis as new cast regular Dan Lewis, following the departure of companions Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole.

“Getting to know John has been wonderful,” says 39-year-old Jodie. “He came in at one hundred and ten (percent) with his energy and enthusiasm. He’s been so much fun to be around he’s been a massive team player.

“For us, we were still grieving

Brad and Tosin and for him to come in and not to fill anybody’s shoes and be his own person... we found a new dynamic which felt brilliant and it felt so comfortabl­e. The way you meet Dan are really fun scenes.”

John laughingly says there was a big bonus in joining Doctor Who. “It meant I could get out of the house and not be stuck in with Covid.

“I’ll be honest, I don’t know how big an impact this will have on my life or anything like that as it’s not come out yet, but as a life experience it’s one of the best things that I’ve done since I’ve managed to get into this world of showbusine­ss. I genuinely feel I’ve learned a lot and I’ve made good friends, and I didn’t think that I’d come away with that.” John, who turns 55 at the end of November adds: “Most of what I do is me – or The John Bishop Show – me on the stage on my own or leading something on my own. For this I

The thing that’s fun about working with monsters that have been in it before but are new for me is that it makes you feel like you are getting your moment of history... like Sontarans, for me it’s my first...

 ?? As Irene ?? L-R: Ruth Negga as Clare, Tessa Thompson
As Irene L-R: Ruth Negga as Clare, Tessa Thompson
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Rebecca Hall André Holland as Brian with director
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HERE COME THE TEARS: The terrifying Weeping Angels are back
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A Sontaran

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