Utd certs to win? No way Jose

MAN UNITED have failed to beat Derby and West Ham so chances of taking care of Valencia tonight look slim.

The Champions League is a welcome distraction for Jose Mourinho after a cup exit to Derby and EPL loss to the Hammers.

A 3-1 defeat at the London Stadium made it the Reds’ worst start to the season for 29 years and something must give with the gaffer tipped to leave.

United won their CL opener at Young Boys but it’s difficult to back them at a best 7-10 with McBookie.

In their favour is the fact Valencia haven’t won in England since 2002 and have made a slow start to the season although victory at Sociedad put them 14th.

They are a best 5-1 at Hills but with United so sluggish a draw could be the way to go at 3-1 with betfair.

The other game in Group H should go the way of Juventus even without Cristiano Ronaldo. Juve are a best 1-5 so consider them -1 at 1-2 with Ladbrokes.

Man City head to Hoffenheim needing a win after a shock home defeat to Lyon. That was just a blip and with Pep Guardiola back in the dugout after his ban I’m on City at 2-5 (bet365).

Again it’s a bit short so best bet could be over 3.5 match goals (11-10, betfair). Four out of Hoffenheim’s last seven have gone that way with all seven seeing both score.

Sergio Aguero could be rested and that would mean a start for Gabriel Jesus who is 17-16 at Unibet to net.

Elsewhere back Roma to beat Plzen, Bayern and over 2.5 goals v Ajax and both to score at Lyon v Shakhtar. Top Treble Man City to score 2+, Bayern v Ajax over 2.5 goals, Roma (5-2, Betfred)