‘WE’LL ENGAGE WITH ASIANS’
Labour does not take communities’ vote for granted, says Sir Keir GOOD CAUSE: SUNAK LAUNCHES POPPY APPEAL
LABOUR does not take the British south Asian vote for granted, party leader Sir Keir Starmer told Eastern Eye.
He also revealed his determination to work as “grown-up” partners with Asian communities, and his ambition to be the next prime minister of the country.
In an exclusive and wide-ranging interview prior to the anointment of Conservative Rishi Sunak as the UK’s first non-white prime minister, Sir Keir also said Labour wanted to engage better with south Asians.
“The Labour party has changed under my leadership,” said Sir Keir, adding, “we are pro-business. We have a partnership arrangement with businesses, whether that’s pharmacies, GPs, manufacturing, hospitality – it’s part of that wider engagement.
“Our missions for the country are the right ones, and we can partner with business in delivering them.
“There was a perception that there was a distance between Labour and some of our Asian communities, and I want to close that gap very much in the mode of engage, engage, engage.”
Sir Keir also praised south Asians and said they contributed £37 billion to the UK economy every year. He promised to help business because they were good for the country.
“So many businesses say that in order to live, we need a level-playing field, and we can’t do that if we’ve got business rates which don’t work well in the modern world, and then hold us back.
“You need to do something about it, so that’s the first thing.
“The second thing is building the model of partnership, which is really important for businesses.
“Then there’s trade with the EU – many Asian businesses are exporters, and they want to be able to export well into Europe.
“That’s why I simply say thank you for the contribution that they have made.
“Obviously, that’s not just an economic contribution, because it’s about diversity, it’s about the cultural contribution, but there is a huge economic contribution.
“The diaspora here are year-on-year contributing £37 billion to our economy – it’s huge.
“It’s very important for me to acknowledge that and actually to say thank you for that, because that is business people taking risks, often with their own money building up their businesses, and also the staff and the workforces that they build up with it.”
Among the biggest criticisms among south Asians in the UK is the lack of senior leaders from their communities in top 100 FTSE companies.
The Labour leader agreed that institutions must do more to promote south Asian talent.
“We need to change that, and I’ve got two examples of my own experience here,” Sir Keir said.
“First, we now have the most diverse parliamentary Labour party we’ve ever had, the most diverse shadow cabinet we’ve ever had.
“We’ve got a future candidates programme to make sure we draw on all parts of our communities, including among Asians.
“I worked previously as head of the Crown Prosecution Service, and one of the proudest things about those five years is that we pulled through to senior levels a very diverse leadership team, including many leading Asians.
“Every word about diversity has to be matched by actions, so that others would say, ‘Well, I know that’s something they (Labour) believe in, we can change, and I can see where my future lies.’”
Sir Keir said that under his leadership, Labour was engaging with south Asian business leaders.
Last month [October 15], he held a breakfast meeting with some of the main protagonists, organised by the Asian Media Group (AMG), publishers of Eastern Eye and Garavi Gujarat news weeklies.
“We’re having discussions with Asian businesses, hugely important leaders, asking them what their areas of concern are. What’s going to come out of that meeting is me reflecting the outcome of that meeting in the thinking of the next Labour government.
“It’s actually developing and influencing, so the people in that room will have influenced the next Labour government.
“That is the best engagement you can possibly have, and that’s what I think they’re yearning for.”
Sir Keir and the business leaders spoke under Chatham House rules, which mean Eastern Eye cannot identify who said what.
One major concern was how south Asian businesses were unable to get financial help through banks, especially during the pandemic.
The business leaders also wanted to know how Labour would help their companies flourish.
They also sought the party’s position on the proposed free trade agreement (FTA) between India and the UK.
One entrepreneur pointedly asked about trade post-Brexit and a lack of consistency in policies.
They asked Sir Keir, “From your perspective, do you want us to invest in manufacturing for the sake of selling in the UK? Or is it manufacturing, selling in the UK, plus exporting?
“The latter leads to much more, and you put a lot more tailwind in the manufacturing sector if you’re growing the pie by exporting.
“My specific issue is post Brexit – we’ve given up a market of 230 to 240 millionodd people.
“It’s been enormously difficult to now give half our exports to the EU in the last three or four years, from more than £350 million a year to less than half.
“I’m being forced to invest in places like the Netherlands and France because the Tory government never thought through the implications of just exiting this market that is sitting on our doorstep.
“With your help, how would Labour think about that?”
Sir Keir made clear that he wanted both manufacturing and exporting options to Europe.
But it was not just manufacturing which concerned business leaders.
When Boris Johnson visited India as prime minister earlier this year, it was announced that the FTA would be completed by Diwali (which was celebrated on October 24). However, that deadline passed with no FTA in place.
The UK home secretary, Suella Braverman’s incorrect comments about Indian immigrants breaching their visa conditions did not help matters, with some reports stating New Delhi was not best pleased with her rhetoric.
Sir Keir said he understood the importance of a trade treaty with India.
South Asian business leaders told the Labour leader that Britain had a skills shortage, and they gave the example of the shortage of doctors.
“You should question this in the parliament,” said one. “It’s the senior skill set who will create or will take care of the country, and that’s doctors, that’s what we need.
“The migration of doctors, between 1960s to 2000, and a big surge around 2014, is not going to happen.
“If we talk to doctors in India, we’re struggling to find them because we need them in the pharma companies to do clinical trials, for example, and they are saying, ‘No, we’re not interested because it’s much better to be in India or much better to be in Pakistan or Bangladesh.’”
Another said, “We’ve got a growing population, we’ve got an ageing population, and we’ve got a population which is living longer, but with much more illness and long-term conditions.
“The NHS has a £170 billion budget, so any future government coming in, it’s got a massive challenge on their hands.
“One of the biggest problems that we’re facing is the workforce. It’s absolutely impossible to find doctors, the people who came in the 1960s, most are retiring. Because of these punitive pension rules, one in three GPs is planning to retire in the next few years.
“The government claims they’re going to have 5,000 extra GPs in the next two years, we’ve got 1,500 fewer.
“So, I would really like to know what the Labour party plans to do on that.”
Sir Keir said he was aware of the problems, that Labour was committed to more doctors, and it had revealed how it was going to tackle that issue at its conference last month.
Seema Malhotra, the shadow business minister and Feltham and Heston’s Labour MP, told Eastern Eye it was important that immigration which helped Britain remained a priority.
“There are issues we’re concerned about and how they are being handled by this government, also around foreign students and other visa issues.
“We’ll be having, through our shadow Home Office team, a consultation as well as the system and skills. That will be starting soon with Yvette Cooper [shadow home secretary] and her team.
“Historically, the Labour government, with a highly skilled visa worker scheme, led to a lot of Indians being able to come to Britain. We’re looking at how our businesses can prosper, and how can our nations work to be much closer again.
“Those are areas which we need to continue as the backdrop for a free trade agreement that will have the relationships in place, as well as the stability of a political framework that will help any agreement be successful.”
She said Labour “was open for business with south Asian communities and businesses and we are listening to them”.
Sir Keir said the UK was innovative, and the production of the Covid vaccine proved that. But he claimed the government were holding back innovators.
The Labour leader promised to continue to meet south Asian business leaders on a regular basis.
Commentators say Sunak has only two years to turn around the economy and fix the cost of living crisis, or he will not win the next general election.
Asked whether Sir Keir would be Britain’s next prime minister, the Labour leader responded, “I hope so, and I’m absolutely determined that we will win that next general election.
“In the end, that’s a decision for the British public, but what they can now see is a change in the Labour party, a Labour party ready to govern.
“They [the public] are comparing that with the complete shambles of a government which has presided over 12 years of failure, 12 years of low growth, and 12 years of stagnant wages, which has now done huge damage to our economy with their kamikaze budget.
“People are crying out for change.”