Empire (UK)

SMALL TALK

- ANDREW GARFIELD

How’s your day been? Are you working at the moment?

Oh mate, I am off. I am a person in the world. I am sat on a couch. What am I doing? I’m reading books! I’m going on walks! I’m seeing friends! I’m with my family! I’m in my mid-thirties!

You’re living! Well, that sounds like living to me...

Do you know what I mean? I’ve been grinding away, like everyone else our age has been, I suppose, addicted to work in certain ways. You know, I’ve been working back-to-back for so long, I just realised, “Oh, I don’t feel the need to do that anymore.” That’s quite a nice feeling.

It feels like an idea that’s gaining ground. There was an article online recently about millennial­s being the “burnout generation”. It’s tricky because the culture right now tells us that we need to always be on. But I don’t agree. I think it is making people burn out and I think it’s creating an imbalance, a lack of presence, a lack of joy and a lack of actually knowing ourselves better. I don’t know, maybe I’m just justifying my laziness!

Not at all — it’s good to have time for self-care. Exactly. Perspectiv­e-altering stuff, you know what I mean? JOHN NUGENT UNDER THE SILVER LAKE IS ON MUBI NOW

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