Empire (UK)

No./11 How do you top Normal People?

Lenny Abrahamson returns to the Sally Rooney-verse with CONVERSATI­ONS WITH FRIENDS

- SOPHIE BUTCHER

LENNY ABRAHAMSON HADN’T anticipate­d that Normal People would turn out the way it did. The adaptation of Sally Rooney’s emotionall­y charged novel became the BBC’S most-streamed show of 2020, earned internatio­nal acclaim, and scored Abrahamson his first Emmy nomination for his work directing six out of the 12 episodes.

“It defied our most optimistic prediction­s,” he tells Empire. Now he’s doing another Rooney adaptation, her debut novel Conversati­ons With Friends, and the pressure is on. “The expectatio­ns are always there, even if it isn’t connected to a big success,” he says. “It’s like, will we do it justice?”

Where Normal People was a laser-focused love story, Conversati­ons is bigger in scope. Set in modern-day Dublin, it follows student Frances (Alison Oliver) as she navigates relationsh­ips with best friend Bobbi (Sasha Lane), secret lover Nick (Joe Alwyn), and his wife Melissa (Jemima Kirke). With the story told entirely through Frances’ eyes, casting the right person was crucial — and an opportunit­y to, as with Normal People’s Paul Mescal and Daisy Edgar-jones, find an unknown actor and propel them to stardom. Enter Alison Oliver, a young, Cork-born breakout star who makes her screen debut on the show. “The more people we read her with, the more perfect she was,” Abrahamson recalls. Yet only one other actor could provide exactly the chemistry needed with Oliver to make Frances and Nick’s story tick. “There was so much soulfulnes­s in him,” Abrahamson says of Alwyn’s audition for the role. “It’s an older man and a younger woman, and in the novel, the power-balance can flip the less convention­al way. It’s often Frances who’s the active force. Joe and Alison really found that.”

Normal People broke new ground in its depiction of sex, helped by a pioneering approach to intimacy coordinati­on. As Conversati­ons With Friends also digs deep into themes of sex and affection, Abrahamson again worked with expert Ita O’brien “on how to make actors feel safe whilst also giving them creative ownership of what’s happening,” he explains. “Having gone through the process with Normal People,

that was something that felt really solid going into Conversati­ons.”

So the chemistry is there, the intimacy is there — but is it possible to recapture the same quiet, melancholy tone that made Normal People

so mesmerisin­g? It turns out that Abrahamson wasn’t really trying to, aiming for an “affinity” with the 2020 show rather than creating an outright copy. “Conversati­ons is that bit gnarlier as a story,” Abrahamson explains.“there’s clearly a family resemblanc­e between the shows, but I feel like they’re cousins rather than siblings.” No matter how distant the relation, we’re excited to meet the new member of the clan.

CONVERSATI­ONS WITH FRIENDS WILL AIR ON BBC THREE IN MAY

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Clockwise from main: Nick (Joe Alwyn) and Frances (Alison Oliver); Frances with best friend Bobbi (Sasha Lane); Jemima Kirke (left) plays Melissa.
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