AS IT IS PATTY WALTERS, GRILLED. TASTES LIKE CHICKEN
You know PATTY WALTERS – AS IT IS frontman, former Youtube personality, and the kind of guy who sails through life without a care in the world, right? Wrong. The pop-punk star might just be the most misunderstood man in music…
Patty Walters is tied up in a Brighton practice space, and he kind of likes it. He even goes as far as to suggest his captors (that’s us) put duct tape over his mouth. As tempting as that is, it won’t work, because we’ve wrangled him here for his most difficult interview ever. A selection of the toughest questions he’s likely to ever answer, sent in by K! readers, designed to make him squirm.
After a solid hour of intense questioning, we learn a lot about the As It Is frontman. In fact, we find out he’s not exactly the guy we thought he was.
Before Patty unveiled his emo-throwback makeover in April – which saw him blacken his hair and rim his baby blues with eyeliner to match the aesthetic of his band’s dark latest record The Great Depression – he appeared to be the perkiest guy in all of pop-punk, with a Disney Club-like demeanour and perma-smile. But it turns out that was all an illusion.
The man before us today is painfully introverted, has zero self-confidence, is yet to find happiness and pretty much hates the entire human race. He also has more integrity than almost any pop star in the world today, is unapologetically himself, and he’s owning the lot.
One flame-grilled, enigma coming right up… ELIZABETH: What question do you wish someone would ask you? “Maybe, ’How are you?’ We ask people how they are all the time, but we don’t
actually ask people how they are – it’s just a pleasantry we exchange in a shallow way,
and we’re not actually asking how people are. I think it would be nice to be a little more honest, vulnerable and sincere with people.”
JOSH: You’re vegan, you’ve never tried alcohol and you used to cover Disney songs on Youtube. What do you say to people who think you’re a square?
“Ha! I love that. I think, I’m myself, for myself. People have every right to think I’m a square, that’s quite alright with me. If you’re seeking to please everybody you’re gonna fail. So that’s entirely fine – it’s the nature of this industry and this profession.”
RYAN: How did the recent break-up of your long-term relationship affect you?
“It was incredibly tough – one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life. At the time we were still in love, but sometimes you can be in love and also be in a toxic relationship. It’s a shame when you have to be apart from one another to move on and grow, but I’m glad we’re still friends and want each other to be happy. That break-up taught me you have to be selfish – you have to care about other people, but you have to put yourself first.”
GREGG: What are your biggest flaws?
“Oh God, where do I start? I’m a terrible communicator. I don’t talk. When I have to I will, but for the most part I’m bad about texting, calling, emailing and staying in touch. I’m painfully introverted and pretty content with that. I could live in a cabin in the middle of nowhere for a year and be fine with that. And that’s kinda shit – I don’t admire that trait, but it’s also the reality of me, and I’m accepting it. When we’re not on tour I disappear – my bandmates don’t hear from me, and the group text is muted. I’m an enigma when I’m home, and I’m happy about it. How does that fit with being a frontman? It’s a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde thing. I’m quiet and withdrawn, but onstage I’m charismatic and vibrant. I get to wear somebody else’s skin for 30 to 60 minutes and feel like I’m somebody who is confident, good with words and largerthan- life. It’s always been a really healthy, cathartic way of feeling balanced.”
RYAN: Have you ever felt uncomfortable in your career?
“This industry is such a boys’ club sometimes. Well, all the fucking time. That’s not me – I’m not an alpha male, I don’t have banter. A lot of the time I feel very out of place, but luckily the industry is correcting a lot of those things. People are a lot more conscious of their words and their actions. The industry is becoming a much more conscious and inclusive place, and that’s great. Compare how people behaved on tour even just a decade ago to now.”
RUDI: Have you ever wanted to step down from your position in the band?
“When we formed the band I suggested we got a better singer ( laughs). When I asked Ben [Langford-biss, guitar] to join he thought he’d be on drums, so nobody thinks they’re particularly good at their primary instrument, it’s just how things ended up. I don’t like the sound of my voice – I don’t think I’m a good singer. I’ve put a lot of work into it, and I actually practise singing when I’m home, but back then I didn’t know how to sing, and I didn’t for years after that.”
XIOMARA: In the spirit of the song The Stigma (Boys Don’t Cry), how important is it to break down emotional barriers for men?
“Massively. I never felt masculine growing up – I’ve identified as male my whole life, but I didn’t necessarily feel masculine. I always felt like quite a feminine, androgynous boy, and there are so many expectations – you’re supposed to behave a certain way, and you’re not supposed to be vulnerable or show your feelings or your tears, and that’s not healthy. When was the last time I cried? Recently, before we left for Japan. I was so stressed that I made myself sick. I wasn’t sleeping, I was overwhelmed, and having a cry made me feel a lot better.”
SILVER: What’s your biggest insecurity?
“My lack of confidence. I have this massive inferiority complex where I always compare myself to others. It’s difficult to remain confident and empowered when you’re constantly comparing yourself to other people on social media. When I was in school I compared myself to everybody around me, and I never felt normal or comfortable. But I’ve also gotten better at accepting that I am me. I can only be the best self I’m capable of being. If you get 99 compliments and one insult, you’re gonna remember that one thing. Negative criticism always hurts more when you agree with it. I don’t think every performance I’ve done has been fantastic, or every song we’ve written has been great, so if somebody shares that sentiment, then it cuts deep and you feel pretty shit about yourself.”
CHRIS: What do you think is the biggest injustice in the world today?
“Probably the greed and ignorance of mankind, in so many fucking ways. Fascism. Polluting our fucking earth, and people being generally horrible to the world, animals and each other – this selfimportance and entitlement that we can do whatever we want to. Everyone is so selfish. People are shit.”
CRAIG: What is the key to happiness?
“I will tell you when I find it ( laughs). I’m still searching, and I think anyone who has an answer to that question is full of shit. Not only is it, for the most part, a futile battle, but it’s also different for everybody, there’s not one universal secret to happiness. If you have it it’s not gonna be the same for someone else. I’m not there, but I’m closer than I used to be.”
EMMA: What happens when we die?
“It’s morbid and not very romantic, but I think when we die, we die, and that’s where our consciousness ends and we become worm food. It’s not pretty, I wish it were different, and in a big way I really hope that I’m wrong, but I can’t help how I view these things ( laughs). There are so many people who have opinions about heaven, but the truth is I don’t believe in a whole lot; life ends and then we’re six-feet under or we’re turned into ashes and stored in an urn some place.” K!
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“I’M NOT AN ALPHA MALE. I DON’T HAVE BANTER” PATTY WALTERS