PC’s com­ments ‘in­ap­pro­pri­ate’

But of­fi­cer de­nies touch­ing col­league

Llanelli Star - - FRONT PAGE - Es­tel Farell-Roig @EstelFR1 es­tel.farell­[email protected]­line.co.uk 01792 545548

A PO­LICE of­fi­cer ad­mit­ted he was “in­ap­pro­pri­ate” in telling col­leagues he would be “stay­ing in hav­ing a ****athon”, a mis­con­duct hear­ing has been told.

PC Si­mon Eng­land, of Dyfed-Powys Po­lice, is also al­leged to have re­peat­edly touched a fe­male col­league and made in­ap­pro­pri­ate sex­ual com­ments – but he de­nied ever touch­ing the woman sex­u­ally.

The panel hear­ing the pro­ceed­ings were told dur­ing the open­ing by El­liot Gold, rep­re­sent­ing the force, that in a po­lice car and while on duty PC Eng­land had told two col­leagues: “I al­ways make time for ****ing.”

Giv­ing ev­i­dence yes­ter­day PC Eng­land ac­cepted mak­ing a ref­er­ence to mas­tur­ba­tion in a con­ver­sa­tion with col­leagues in late Novem­ber 2017 and said he shouldn’t have done it.

They were ask­ing him about a per­son they be­lieved to be his girl­friend but he didn’t want to talk about her, he said.

“That is when I made the in­ap­pro­pri­ate com­ment – I said I would be stay­ing in hav­ing a ****athon,” the of­fi­cer added.

An­swer­ing a ques­tion from Mr Gold PC Eng­land said he ac­cepted his be­hav­iour amounted to mis­con­duct but de­nied it was gross mis­con­duct.

He also faces an al­le­ga­tion that he made lewd sex­ual re­marks about a woman stand­ing in the street to a col­league.

At the hear­ing at DyfedPowys Po­lice head­quar­ters in Car­marthen PC Eng­land said he had re­ceived coun­selling for his low mood while work­ing for an­other force and that had led to him at­tend­ing meet­ings about sex addiction.

The 37-year-old said sex addiction was not the rea­son he started coun­selling but that, as a re­sult of con­ver­sa­tions, the coun­sel­lor sug­gested that it could be ben­e­fi­cial for him to at­tend Sex Ad­dicts Anony­mous.

The PC told the hear­ing: “I went about four or five times while I was con­tin­u­ing to see this coun­sel­lor. I dis­cussed with him how I found it – it was not for me and I didn’t con­tinue to go. There was no for­mal di­ag­no­sis of be­ing a sex ad­dict.”

In an in­ter­view car­ried out as part of the po­lice mis­con­duct investigat­ion on May 31, 2018, PC Eng­land – who is now car­ry­ing out an of­fice-based role at head­quar­ters but was pre­vi­ously based in Llanelli – re­fused to an­swer ques­tions in re­la­tion to sex addiction but said there was no risk posed by him to any mem­ber of the pub­lic or any mem­ber of the or­gan­i­sa­tion.

PC Eng­land told the hear­ing he joined DyfedPowys Po­lice in July 2017 and had found the trans­fer “hard and dif­fi­cult”.

In re­spect of his al­leged con­duct to­wards a fe­male col­league, who can­not be named for le­gal reasons, he told the hear­ing he had made com­ments he re­gret­ted but de­nied claims he had made un­wanted phys­i­cal contact with her.

PC Eng­land said he had not spo­ken much with the of­fi­cer prior to the two of them be­ing sent on a job at Sin­gle­ton Hospi­tal to­gether in 2017 but said he thought he had got to know her “quite well” and had be­come friends dur­ing the course of the as­sign­ment.

He de­nied touch­ing her and said he was try­ing to be funny when he put his hands on the back of her chair, de­scrib­ing his ac­tions as “playful”.

“I think I leaned for­ward and said ‘boo’,” he said. “Be­cause we had been get­ting on re­ally well up un­til that point I didn’t think that it would have caused her any con­cern and I hope she would have found it amus­ing.”

PC Eng­land said on the same oc­ca­sion he pulled a sub­stan­tial amount of toi­let tis­sue out of his trouser pocket and said he had put it there in case the nurses thought he “was hav­ing a ****”.

“I did say some­thing sim­i­lar to that,” he said. “I think I would have had a cold or hayfever. It was a joke . . . it was ill-judged hu­mour.”

On a sep­a­rate oc­ca­sion PC Eng­land said he paid a com­pli­ment to the of­fi­cer about the way she looked and touched her back.

“There is no stroking,” he said. “It would have been a hand sim­ply placed on the back around the shoulder blade and for a mo­men­tary sec­ond and then re­moved.

“I thought she was my friend, I didn’t think that it was sex­ual.”

PC Eng­land de­nies gross mis­con­duct

The hear­ing, which is ex­pected to last all week, con­tin­ues.

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