Macclesfield Express

I live in my head most of the time

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PERHAPS it should come as no surprise that, if you ask Susie Dent about her exercise regime, you get this answer: “The word muscle comes from the Roman word for little mouse – ‘musculus’ – because when you flex your biceps, it does look a bit like little mice scuttling around under the skin. And I have to say, my muscles were reduced to tiny, tiny mice...”

TV’s most high-profile, and fair to say favourite lexicograp­her, Susie has been introducin­g viewers to words and explaining their origins and meanings on Channel 4’s Countdown since 1992.

She had been working at Oxford University Press producing dictionari­es when she was asked by her boss if she’d like to audition for the show (“nervous” Susie said no twice before being convinced to give it a go).

Chatting to her over the phone, as she explains her motivation for recently getting back into “doing some weights training”, Susie is friendly and calm, and her answers have a gleeful knack of weaving back to the topic of words.

“I had a diary when I was little, it had a little lock and key, I felt like I could write absolutely anything in it,” Susie, now 56, recalls. “I remember the time when I was going through teenage angst, it was just full of melancholy. But it really helped to write things down.

“I bet it would be excruciati­ng to look at those entries now,” she adds with a laugh.

The teenage angst years are thankfully over, but “writing things down is something that’s always helped”, she says, in terms of coping with times of stress and worry. She’s big into the benefits of breathing exercises too.

“I live in my head most of the time, I always have done, and I tend to catastroph­ise – you just have to ask Rachel [Riley, Susie’s Countdown co-star and good pal] or any of my friends, I do tend to go to the worst conclusion,” she admits. “Sometimes it’s just important, really important, to stop, and breathing really works.

“I’ve found breathing exercises really help to kind of pull my mind away from those catastroph­es.”

Getting older is proving helpful too. “Like everyone else really, as I get older, [I’m] definitely realising that so many of the outcomes I fear and dread haven’t happened, and that actually it’s not risky to kind of follow the positive route in your head.”

Work is also “an oasis” for Susie, especially writing during the pandemic. “I’m writing my next book, which has been really nice because that’s my normality, as well a podcast I do every week with Gyles [Brandreth].”

The Surrey-born wordsmith, who studied modern languages at Oxford – where she now lives – already has 13 books to her name, including a popular edition of Brewer’s Dictionary Of Phrase & Fable. The podcast, Something Rhymes With Purple, won gold in the Best Entertainm­ent category at the 2020 British Podcast Awards.

Like so many things, they had to swap the studio for Zoom to record episodes during lockdown, but Susie didn’t really mind.

“For all that I would not like to be involved with eight Zoom meetings every day, the podcast hour that we took onto Zoom was somehow much more direct and intimate than sitting in a studio. It felt much more likely a homely chat, and that was a refuge for me as well,” she says.

Susie has also been learning Spanish using the Rosetta Stone home-learning programmes, taking advantage of the brief pause in filming Countdown last year.

“And it was possibly the one really worthwhile thing I did during lockdown – apart from obviously surviving and looking after my daughters,” she quips.

“I hate saying, ‘Oh I managed to do this, this and this’. It always sounds so self-congratula­tory, but there were many, many days where I didn’t achieve anything at all, like so many of us.

“But this was a bit of an oasis for me actually, it just kind of took me away in my head to a different place; you know, to a sunny cafe on a side street, pretending I was talking to someone in Spanish, and it just really did my head a lot of good.”

Of course, Susie is no stranger to learning foreign words. “I’m not a polyglot at all, but I did French and German at university.

“German was my absolute love; but I’ve always been conscious of the fact I don’t know Spanish.

“My daughter’s learning Spanish at school and I feel really frustrated I can’t help her. So that was the catalyst,” Susie explains.

She’s fascinated by the longerterm benefits too. “There is so much research showing that learning a foreign language increases the size of your brain” – and finds the process can “soothe the soul as well”.

Work and words aside, what else brings Susie joy?

“Well, I think like lots of people, joy wouldn’t necessaril­y be the defining word for the last couple of years. But it’s those simple pleasures we’ve all recaptured somehow. Obviously, my children bring me lots of joy and laughter,” adds Susie, who has two daughters – Lucy, 20, and Thea, 12.

She lights up at mention of time spent “just laughing with my sister. That was such a big thing for me. I have an older sister and lockdown actually brought us so much closer,” notes Susie, saying they’d chat on the phone “and remember really stupid things from our childhood; we would just talk a lot.

“I think talking came back into fashion during the pandemic,” Susie adds. “Yeah, we keep in touch, but do we really talk?”

Susie Dent is learning Spanish with Rosetta Stone. They are offering readers up to 50% off on all courses. Visit rosettasto­ne.co.uk/ exclusive

Breathing exercises really help to pull my mind away from catastroph­es Susie reveals how she copes

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Susie Dent on Countdown
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With Giles Brandreth on their podcast
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Susie 01 Caption Dent has enjoyed learning a new language in lockdown

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