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THE LEGENDARY CELEBRITY DESIGN GURU, 60, ON BEING A SINGLE MOTHER AND HOW TO SURVIVE A PANDEMIC WITHOUT LOSING YOUR SPARKLE

- With jewellery designer INTERVIEW BY AMANDA CABLE dinnyhall.com

Were there early signs of a jewellery designer in the making?

I was a little magpie and my first transactio­n was a criminal one – I nicked my mum’s engagement ring and swapped it for a Barbie doll. Then at the age of seven, I found a Cartier brooch at a jumble sale. My mum made me give it back and because there was only one person in our village likely to own a Cartier, we knew whose door to knock on. It belonged to a Lebanese-Italian countess who, years later when I opened my first workshop, commission­ed me. So I guess the good deed paid back!

So why jewellery?

I was designing clothes and interiors at school and when I did a foundation course I realised I liked working with metal and

Ring of truth:. A Barbie doll. didn’t like sewing so much. Central Saint Martins did a degree in jewellery design – it’s not necessaril­y what I’d recommend because I thought the people who ran it were ancient but I did learn the basics of jewellery and I loved the mix of other creative people. I got a 2:2 and felt I’d failed. But I was good at selling myself and the buyer from Liberty came to my design show and asked me to do a collection. Hat designer Stephen Jones gave me a space in his workshop and I started making everything day and night. I also worked in the evenings as a waitress and I rarely slept as I cobbled together my first collection. From then, I did designer Rifat Ozbek’s jewellery for his catwalk shows, which took me all over the world. I lived partly in New York, started selling in the US and even Madonna was a client. Everything was looking amazing – it was my rock star moment.

I am sensing a ‘but’…

There was a recession in the early ’90s and I wasn’t really thinking about the business. I was carried along on the crest of a wave. Suddenly people owed me money, I wasn’t managing the accounts properly and I very nearly went bust. I managed to get a bit of investment in ’92 and open a shop in Notting Hill. I was 36 when my son was born and I ended up as a single mother running a business, fending for herself. I never wanted a man to support me so I took two months off after Lorcan was born and then I used to bring him in and put him under my desk.

What happened next? What was the lowest point?

By 2005 I had three shops, was bringing up a child alone and I was at the mercy of retail while rents were rising skyhigh. The financial crash hit my business and at one point I ended up in court with an investor fighting over my very name. It was tough.

Mistakes, you’ve made a few?

I didn’t listen to people who bored me and that would be accountant­s. I couldn’t pay attention to them because my head was always thinking of the next thing I wanted to do. The biggest mistake I made was not finding a good partnershi­p in business with someone who had all the qualities I didn’t. It’s like a marriage – you want someone as a partner who complement­s your own skills.

And then there was Covid-19…

My son now lives in Shanghai and I’d been to Thailand in February. I wore a mask like everyone else so by the end of the month when I returned I knew a virus doesn’t have borders and I knew it was coming to the West so I started to make plans. Having said that, sales dropped off a cliff in March and I really did think, ‘Is this it? After 35 years of running my own business, how can I deal with this?’ The fear of letting down all my team and staff was huge.

What did you do?

I started looking at how there have been pandemics before. We closed the shops, furloughed the staff – the furlough scheme was the great saviour for someone like me, who runs a small business – and that gave me the chance to think about how I could move the company forward. People started shopping online so I fast-forwarded that side of the business, got the website looking good over lockdown and then tackled the rents. I thought it would cost a fortune to go to a lawyer so I rang the landlords of my six shops and talked to them myself. It took a month to negotiate each one but whereas I’ve always run the company on creative verve and intuition, this forced me to concentrat­e on business. I’m running the company now better than I was before.

What advice do you have for young designers?

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