The Courier & Advertiser (Angus and Dundee)
French and Saunders: We love funny women
As eminent for their writing prowess as their impeccably timed delivery, comedians Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders have cemented themselves as British television staples.
First rising to prominence in the Eighties in sitcom French and Saunders, the duo have gained the status of national treasures over the past four decades.
With French, 63, most notably starring as small town vicar Geraldine in The Vicar Of Dibley, and Saunders, 63, as Edina “Eddy” in timeless comedy Absolutely Fabulous, the pair’s individual accolades are just as noteworthy as their combined efforts.
New Gold show French & Saunders: Funny Women sees the pair focus on female comedians past and present.we discover more...
Q Has it been enjoyable working together again? A French: People call it a reunion but it’s not, because we’ve never been apart. But it’s always the same – being very funny in rehearsal, then forgetting it all.
Saunders: That’s how it is! Always funnier in our heads. What is slightly weird is doing it on the White Room set. The second we got on to the set we just reverted to being children.
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Can you explain a little more about the White Room – you’re watching clips on an ipad, right?
A Saunders: Yes. Sometimes it’s a lot of watching, other times it’s a lot of talking. The further away we get from our childhood, the less talking we have to do! It’s extraordinary.
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Is it empowering to see so many women on the comedy circuit today?
A French: We could name every other woman in comedy when we started out, which was about three. And then it became five, then 12 – and suddenly now you can’t even name everybody. I’m delighted, because how many men would be able to name every other guy in comedy? There’s too many – and they wouldn’t even stop to think about it.
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Can you explain the premise of the show? A Saunders: It’s about funny women who have influenced us, who we’ve admired from when we were kids, but also women who are carving careers out in comedy right now, who are just a genuine delight to learn about. We also wanted to include clips that people might not have seen before, and things that were more personal and unusual.
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What’s your view on being compared to Fry and Laurie or Mitchell and Webb?
A Saunders: That’s a nice comparison. Honestly, we’re just desperate to be funny, get laughs, dress up and be silly. There is a place for just trying to be funny, whether you’re a man or a woman. You can get a bit po-faced in some comedy nowadays, but I think you’ve just got to up the gag rate. French: That’s how Victoria Wood always gave you bang for your buck. She would always want you to get value for money, and she would absolutely feel like she’d failed if she didn’t give you loads of gags!
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What are your earliest memories of female comedians on the telly and radio?
A French: Funny actresses like Thora Hird, Hylda Baker and Joyce Grenfell. In male comedy, a lot of women were the sidekicks, or were overlooked. There would be a woman in there, but she wasn’t really given the funny lines. I loved Denise Coffey, who was in a programme called Do Not Adjust Your Set, which Spike Milligan was a part of. It was a boys line-up, but she was the one who made me laugh. Saunders: We also realised that a lot of female comedy was done by men, so you had Alastair Sim playing the headmistress in St Trinian’s, you had Dick Emery doing funny comedy, Les Dawson being Hylda Baker basically, and even the Monty Pythons had someone being a dolly bird, but the men took all the funny parts. I mean, come on!
Q What’s your take on the current generation of actors like Miranda Hart, Phoebe Waller-bridge, Michaela Coel?
A Saunders: We’re quite bitter about them.
French: We just want work from them. We’re just begging really for work, so we blow smoke up their a**e.
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What it is that makes you laugh?
A French: It’s hard to put your finger on ...it’s so many things, isn’t it? Julie Walters, Victoria Wood and Hannah Gadsby are all in this show, and they are all people in my life where I think, “Yes, yes, yes! Thank you, thank you, thank you.” Saunders: It’s quite hard, especially the early ones, because there were so many funny actresses… Julie Walters could walk in a room and make you laugh without saying anything. Hannah Gadsby would say something to make you laugh. Lucille Ball would just fall over and make you laugh. There are so many different ways of doing it – but most of it is timing.
French and Saunders: Funny Women airs on Saturday, July 17 on Gold.