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The greatest showman

Once the enfant terrible of French fashion, Jean Paul Gaultier is staring 70 in the face by bringing the hit revue of his life, Fashion Freak Show, to the UK – conical bras and all. Guy Kelly meets him in Paris

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As a musical revue of Jean Paul Gaultier’s fantastiqu­e life hits the UK, Guy Kelly meets the one-time enfant terrible

The court of Jean Paul Gaultier sits opposite a discount clothing shop and next to a salad bar chain in the chic Marais district of Paris. The inscriptio­n ‘Future of the Proletaria­t’ bellows from an outside wall. Inside the designer’s headquarte­rs I am led to a reception room where I settle on a black-velvet sofa. ‘Jean Paul will sit here,’ says his publicist, gesturing at the chaise longue opposite. He’s upstairs, finishing a fitting with one of his long-time muses, the French singer Mylène Farmer. I am alone but for half a dozen mannequins, all of whom wear last season’s exquisite, brassy couture gowns. Then in skips the man himself.

‘Bonjour, bonjour, bonjour! I am Jean Paul!’ Gaultier says, grinning wildly. ‘I’ve been doing clothes for Mylène Farmer! I made her all over black velvet and a corset made of belts, many belts. And a red jumpsuit, a floating like fire! But sober fire, you know?’

The former enfant terrible of fashion is now 67 years old, but he still enters a room like a labrador on cocaine. He wears a black shirt, black jeans and black Chelsea boots. The hair is silvery and cropped short, finishing in rampant sideburns. The accent is as cartoon French as ever – and he has cause to be excessivel­y reflective at the

moment. For almost a year, Fashion Freak Show ,a musical revue of his life, has been performed nightly at Paris’s legendary Folies Bergère, and later this month it transfers to London.

Part fashion show, part cabaret, Gaultier cowrote and co-directed the show with help from the screenwrit­er Raphaël Cioffi and film-maker Tonie Marshall. Another friend, Nile Rodgers – the legendary producer and founder of Chic (whose biggest hit, Le Freak, is the show’s theme) – provided the music. Marion Motin, a former dancer for Madonna, did the choreograp­hy.

Gaultier has wanted to create this show since the ’80s. ‘I said if I was to make a fashion revue, I have to make it in a modern way,’ he says. ‘I knew I couldn’t write but I can write visually. And I love to cast. I would pick girls I saw in clubs in London or Paris. Characters I liked, that were different. Like Madonna! She was the sexy one, but she had the power. And she didn’t walk like a model; she walked like her.’

The conical-shaped bras and corsets Gaultier created for Madonna’s 1990 Blond Ambition tour – which became one of the most iconic designs of the late 20th century – are, of course, a key part of the show. So are the trench coats, the Breton sweaters, the kilts and the tattoo dresses that are all synonymous with his name. But the opening scene is of a teddy bear, Nana, undergoing surgery.

Nana (who is male, it seems, but that’s children for you) was his first muse. Growing up in Arcueil, a southern suburb of Paris, Gaultier was an only child with an accountant father and a mother who was a clerk. They were loving and kind, but it was his nearby maternal grandmothe­r, Marie – a provider of counsellin­g, massage and facials, plus marriage and fashion advice to local women – who awoke his creative side.

When the young Jean Paul was four he asked his parents for a doll. ‘They said it was not good for a boy to have a doll so it was better to have a bear.’ A few years on, Marie let him watch the Folies Bergère performanc­es on television.

‘I loved it so much, the next day I took the feathers out of my mother’s duster and put them on my teddy bear,’ he says. Later, Nana would have make-up – stolen from Marie. The first coneshaped bra, in the form of pyramidal paper breast implants, went on Nana too.

‘Nana is now retired, in a shoe box at home, but he is a superstar,’ Gaultier says. A giant Nana replacemen­t appears in the performanc­e. ‘He is 30ft high in the show!’

Gaultier spent a lot of time with Marie, sitting

‘I would pick girls I saw in clubs. Characters I liked. Like Madonna! She was the sexy one, but she had the power’

quietly in the corner as clients had therapy sessions; aged eight, he would hear her tell them their whole lives could be changed if they just altered their dress or hair, then he’d sketch them in imaginary clothes and agree. ‘It was my own education in a way,’ he says.

Gaultier began his first job in fashion on his 18th birthday, after a neighbour sent his sketches to contacts in the industry, one of whom was pioneering French designer Pierre Cardin, who hired him as a studio assistant. ‘Nobody speaks about Cardin but he’s a genius! He always wanted to be new, new, new, and he said fashion will become something that isn’t there to impress people, but to promote something else!’ Using haute couture as a marketing strategy: Gaultier would remember this.

Gaultier could be excused an ego the size of this room, but he seems never happier than when paying tribute to the influence others have had on him. Some people at Cardin were sketching ‘long silhouette­s that were nice, with the proportion­s just right’, but Gaultier preferred to be looser, using a ‘mix of fabric, colour, finding ideas by mistakes’. Cardin encouraged him to be ‘free and crazy’, but the young Gaultier was asked to leave when he granted himself six weeks’ unannounce­d holiday as a reward for completing his first couture show as a studio assistant. ‘I thought it was like school! You work until June or July, then come back at the end of September. But no.’

He went to work for Jacques Esterel and Jean Patou, more traditiona­l Parisian houses, before returning to Cardin in 1974. The next year, he bumped into Francis Menuge, a friend of a friend. ‘I said to my friend, “He’s attractive, yes, pity he’s not gay…” And it turned out that in the holidays he’d been having some experiment­s.’ (Gaultier’s realisatio­n he was gay came a lot earlier. At 13, his grandmothe­r gave him a knowing look and a novel in which ‘a guy in it gets f—d’. )

Then 23, Gaultier fell in love with Menuge and they just as immediatel­y began working together. Menuge was ‘business-minded, but also creative and sensitive and clever’ and convinced Gaultier he was good enough to start his own line. At the time, Gaultier thought that, aside from Yves Saint Laurent and Cardin, most couturiers were playing it too safe. But Kenzo, a luxury house launched in 1970 by Kenzo Takada, had shown that ready-to-wear was now the place to be truly creative.

Gaultier presented his first collection at the Paris planetariu­m in 1976. It included biker jackets with tutus, and dresses made of placemats: designs informed by tradition but inspired by the streets. At that moment, other designers were pushing the ‘Parisian peasant’ look. Gaultier ignored all that. ‘If something is a tradition,’ it was once said of him, ‘he doesn’t touch it. If it’s a convention, he pulverises it.’ His first men’s collection, the skirt-heavy Man As Object, in 1984, reversed the gaze. Later he would include tattooed, trans, ‘plus size’ and disabled models long before diversity was encouraged.

‘I always liked looking another way, and it shocked me that some couldn’t appreciate that people were different,’ he says. ‘I never had a message, but through clothes you can say a lot of things about politics, sex, society.’ It’s true, I say. Like Melania Trump’s coats. ‘Yes!’ Unlike others, he’s said he’d ‘definitely’ dress the First Lady.

By the mid ’80s, celebritie­s started to find Gaultier. Madonna wore one of his dresses to the 1985 American Music Awards. ‘I had loved her since Holiday,’ he says. At the end of the decade, Madonna asked him to design 358 costumes for her Blond Ambition tour. Just as he started, Menuge – by then his boyfriend of over 15 years – died from an Aidsrelate­d illness.‘it was horrible. I was very sad, I loved him. We made this thing [the business] together. I thought about stopping, but I went on.’

He threw himself into work. To break his timidity, Menuge had encouraged Gaultier to cowrite and release a dance pop song, Aow Tou Dou Zat, in 1989 (it ended up in the Top 100 of the European dance charts) and he pushed himself further by designing costumes for movies, including Luc Besson’s The Fifth Element ,aswell as launching his hugely successful corset-shaped perfume, Classique. And Eurotrash.

Gaultier loved Eurotrash, the television show he co-hosted with Antoine de Caunes, which revealed European sexual mores to wide-eyed British teenagers and played up to both his Frenchness and campness. ‘When Francis died I knew I can’t quit, I had to do something else, like this. I was the gay one, but it was done in a natural way.’

Before he died, Menuge had also been nagging him to give couture a go again. In 1996 he met with Bernard Arnault – the chairman of the fashion conglomera­te LVMH, which owns Dior, Fendi, Givenchy, and Celine, among other brands – thinking he might be offered the head couturier role at Dior. Instead that went to John Galliano, while Gaultier was asked to replace Galliano at Givenchy.

Unlike other designers, Gaultier has said he’d ‘definitely’ dress Melania Trump

‘I say non.’ He’d never dreamed of working for Givenchy, once calling it ‘very bourgeois’.

He opened Gaultier Paris, his own couture label, the following year and instantly loved the wild freedom and delicate fussiness of it. At the same time, though, he was happy to design for others: in 2003 he took on the creative directorsh­ip of Hermès, succeeding Martin Margiela, the avant-garde Belgian prodigy who had started as his assistant in the mid ’80s. Opening Gaultier Paris was undeniably smart. Couture houses tend to operate at a loss these days (one dress costs double a standard house deposit), but they’re commercial­ly justified by the value they add to the designer’s other ventures. In other words, Gaultier was about to sell a lot more perfumes.

In September it will have been five years since Gaultier announced the closing of his ready-towear division in favour of focusing on the twiceyearl­y couture collection­s required to be formally recognised by the Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture. ‘There are too many clothes. Even some companies set fire to them, did you hear? Crazy. More clothes, nobody to wear them, nobody to pay for them…’

He still enjoys designing as much as ever, ‘but fashion has truly changed, now it’s more like marketing. You have to make a contract to make stars wear the clothes. You pay them, it’s incredible.’

Well, is there anybody you would like to wear your clothes now? ‘They are always formatted

by stylists – it is no more about personalit­y.’

What about the Duchess of Sussex? Or Cambridge? ‘I prefer the old English ladies. The Queen is starting to dress like her mother, in improbable colours, it’s truly great. Because she is old, she has an opinion, she doesn’t care about fashion.’ His PR assistant shows him a photograph of Her Majesty’s hot- pink D-day ensemble. ‘I love it! The only thing missing is that I think the inside of her carriages should be the same colour.’

It says something that Gaultier is here at all. Many of the other recent male titans of fashion have either run into financial problems (Christian Lacroix, Yohji Yamamoto), battled addiction (Marc Jacobs and Galliano) or committed suicide (Alexander Mcqueen). ‘I started very young, and I think I have the luck to still love it. I am still the child who loves to play his game…’

He’s certainly savvy: seven years as creative director at Hermès came to an end in 2010, but in that time he’d also calmly grown his own brand to include denim, eyewear, jewellery, childrensw­ear and homewear, at a time when other couturiers were panicking.

He maintained a certain kind of celebrity, too: he was still respected as a haute couture designer of considerab­le talent, yet he’s equally at home in pop culture. In 2012 he became the first designer to join the jury of the Cannes Film

Festival. Brands such as Coca-cola have asked him for advice, while celebritie­s, from Catherine Deneuve to Lady Gaga, continue to wear him. Today it’s estimated he’s worth more than £200 million, with reported houses in Paris, Greece and the Basque country.

Very little gets him down, bar politics. ‘It’s quite sad, no? I was hearing the same when I was a child, just lie, lie, lie. There is the young, like the girl from Sweden…’

Greta Thunberg? ‘Yes! She believes in something, sees things more fresh. It belongs to the young to make a big change.’

As a committed Anglophile, Brexit makes him sad too, ‘but the English are insular, so they have that sense of being different, which I respect. I understand thinking you can lead by yourselves, by your own traditions. But I also like the idea of a united Europe.’

He’s recently worked with Madonna again, creating outfits for her new persona, Madame X. The vision – leather, eye patch, a lot of metal, blonde plaits – was her idea, but their collaborat­ion. ‘She wanted black, more gothic, and liked one old outfit in my [1994 ready-to-wear] tattoo collection that was Joan of Arc. Madonna has been Frida Kahlo, Marlene Dietrich, Marilyn Monroe, all fighting for women. Now she can be Joan of Arc, fighting for age!’

Gaultier is starting to think about his own age, and who might take over the empire. ‘Maybe I start to think about that, but it’s difficult, because there are a lot that are interested. I have some in mind…’

He has a boyfriend – ‘He is Greek! Actually I don’t know why I told you he’s Greek, it’s not important’ – of several years, with whom he lives in Paris and frequently visits Greece. When

‘The Queen is starting to dress like her mother, in improbable colours, it’s truly great’

there, Gaultier just sketches.

But he knows he’s getting old. He says he never used to pause and ask interviewe­rs to remind him of the question. He’s also ‘getting fatter, [and] I don’t move as well. I remember one party, I had these huge heels, up and down the stairs here, but I tried them last year and couldn’t even stand up.’

I ask Gaultier how he thinks of his legacy, which prompts a detailed recollecti­on of a 1986 British television advert for The Guardian. A skinhead is running down a street behind a suited businessma­n carrying a briefcase. The skinhead runs up to the businessma­n and the camera freezes. Viewers are led to believe he’s going to mug him, but the real danger is revealed to be a falling pile of bricks. The skinhead is saving the man’s life. I ask, that’s your legacy?

‘Oui, that I don’t always see things the same way as other people, and you can find beauty in everything – it just depends how you look at it.’

His PR looks at her watch, he’s late for another fitting. In Fashion Freak Show, he has made this the show of his life. For once, he’s his own muse. Describe it in one word, I say.

‘Fantastiqu­e!’ he responds. The smile fades a little. For a fleeting moment, the enfant terrible looks like a child again.

‘I would say honest. Before I started to work I had a complex about not being interestin­g, about not having anything that would make people look at me. So I would invent things. I would say, “Hey, see that girl on the cover of Elle? She is my cousin.” And of course she was not. Then I started to work, and it was like, finally, I didn’t need to lie any more.’

The grin returns. ‘Et voilà!’

Jean Paul Gaultier: Fashion Freak Show is at Southbank Centre’s Queen Elizabeth Hall, from 23 July to 2 August; southbankc­entre.co.uk

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Presenting Eurotrash with Antoine de Caunes in 1993
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Gaultier’s single, Aow Tou Dou Zat, 1989
 ??  ?? Below, from left Gaultier designed costumes for Luc Besson’s The Fifth Element (1997) and Pedro Almódovar’s Kika (1993)
Below, from left Gaultier designed costumes for Luc Besson’s The Fifth Element (1997) and Pedro Almódovar’s Kika (1993)
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Below With his beloved grandmothe­r, Marie, in 1958; with his hero Pierre Cardin last year

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