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‘I’m a low-tax Tory – we must weather the economic storm’

The first female Conservati­ve Foreign Secretary, as forthright on the Northern Ireland Protocol as she is on the Ukraine crisis, is seen by some as a natural fit for No 10. She talks to

- Ben Riley-smith

For a Remainer, it was a curious place to be. Shortly after noon on Tuesday, Liz Truss stood at the Dispatch Box and announced that the UK was ready to go it alone over Northern Ireland.

After 18 months of careful talks with the European Union about post-brexit trade terms in the province, not enough progress had been made, she explained. It was time to act.

The decision to draft legislatio­n to unilateral­ly suspend parts of the Northern Ireland Protocol underscore­d the political journey the Foreign Secretary had experience­d over Brexit.

So forthright was her determinat­ion on the move – one that may yet lead to a trade war and legal action from Brussels – that colleagues briefed newspapers, complainin­g she was too “gung ho”.

Their opinion is likely to remain unchanged after Nancy Pelosi, the US Speaker of the House, late on Thursday vowed to block a US-UK free trade deal in Congress if London pushed ahead with the plan.

Truss backed staying in the European Union in the 2016 referendum. But today, she has regrets.

“If I could go back to 2016, I would vote to leave,” she says, mulling over the week that was in her palatial Foreign Office workspace. “What I’ve seen in both my job in trade and my role as Foreign Secretary is the new freedom and impetus that having an independen­t trade policy and independen­t foreign policy has enabled us to do. And also, the portents of doom haven’t come to fruition.”

But were you not one of the doomsayers yourself, Foreign Secretary? “When the evidence changes, I change my mind,” she responds. “I think that’s the right thing to do.”

A deepening Euroscepti­cism is not the only morphing that Truss, 46, has undergone over the past six years – her political fortunes have been on a steady upward trajectory. At the time of the referendum, she was David Cameron’s environmen­t secretary. It was her first Cabinet job after entering Parliament in 2010 as MP for South West Norfolk and climbing the ministeria­l ranks.

The role of justice secretary followed when Theresa May took over, followed by internatio­nal trade secretary under Boris Johnson – making her a Cabinet survivor.

Then, last September, came the biggest job yet – promotion to one of the great offices of state, becoming the first female Conservati­ve ever to head the Foreign Office.

Since then, as Truss hovers near the top of Tory members’ approval ratings for Cabinet ministers, politicos have been increasing­ly asking: are her eyes on the top job?

Even the briefest scan around her office is a reminder of Truss’s longevity at the top of government – her eighth anniversar­y in the Cabinet is in July. There are mugs linked to her justice days (she was the first female Lord Chancellor); trinkets from foreign trips; a photograph of the Cabinet standing two metres apart from one another at the height of Covid.

The Churchill bust and photograph of the Queen predated her arrival, but the framed photograph of her hugging a vast Old English sheepdog is a rare hint of her private life (she admits she wants to get a dachshund, but her husband is saying no, noting – perhaps not unreasonab­ly, given her foreign travel – that he would be lumped with looking after it).

Certainly, as frontline politician­s go, Truss is more careful and calculated in her responses than some. Questions are followed by pauses that are seconds long. Answers are methodical. Any attempt to entice a comment away from the party line is acknowledg­ed with a smile and rarely taken up. She is a master of pivoting back to an establishe­d position.

So it is that the first thing she wants to talk about is the meat of this week’s announceme­nt, and why it matters so much. Her core message, intended for a European audience, is that nobody should doubt the UK’S resolve in pushing ahead with a unilateral solution over Northern Ireland. “What I want to be clear about is that we are determined to do this. And we won’t be blown off course, because this situation has drifted for a number of months,” she says.

The UK’S argument is by now familiar and all revolves around the protocol, the deal struck under Johnson’s premiershi­p in 2019 that helped him deliver Brexit.

It was agreed that to keep the land border between Ireland and Northern Ireland open, checks instead would be carried out on goods coming in and out over the Irish Sea. But the trade frictions that have followed – the hundreds of pages of paperwork and subsequent delays – have strained stability in Northern Ireland and infuriated unionists.

London blames the EU’S inflexibil­ity about tweaking the protocol. Brussels accuses the UK of reneging on legally binding promises. So the UK has vowed to start making the changes itself.

Truss is unapologet­ic: “What we know is the situation in Northern Ireland is worsening. So the time has come where we have to be resolute, we have to be clear that we are moving ahead to legislate for these solutions.”

Each proposed change is fiendishly technical and, ultimately, will be judged in real-world workabilit­y, but Truss dives into detail on one: the UK’S suggestion for “green lanes” and “red lanes” for goods coming from the British mainland into Northern Ireland.

Green would be for products to be sold only in Northern Ireland, therefore facing minimal checks; red is for those that are travelling on into Ireland, thus entering the EU single market.

The system would be underpinne­d by commercial data – a sticking point with the EU, which wants more government oversight – and backed up with “strong enforcemen­t”, Truss says.

“There would be both fines and the ability to remove those traders from the trusted trader scheme,” she explains in a warning that firms face expulsion if they do not play by the rules.

There are few signs yet that Brussels is willing to budge. Maroš Šefčovič, her opposite number in the European Commission, has made clear that his mandate from EU nations does not include rewriting the protocol and will not change.

According to those familiar with the situation, the pair had a “testy” exchange last week, when details of Truss’s plan leaked, although she sidesteps the question when I ask if their talks have indeed been terse.

So, too, is a question tip-toed around when I ask whether the Prime Minister reined her back on the protocol, as reports have suggested.

She says “everybody agrees” the Good Friday Agreement has to be protected. On claims of being too gung ho, she seems unfazed: “I’m resolute and I’m determined.”

On the walls of Truss’s office hangs a painting of an amorphous white gas against a black background – perhaps a cloud, or a wisp of smoke. It is called Diplomacy,

and Truss selected it herself. In the haze of war that has followed Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Foreign Secretary has played a leading role in the UK’S response – one recognised by Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president.

At its core are a number of guiding principles: Vladimir Putin must fail; Ukraine must be armed; Russia must be crippled economical­ly; and this must never happen again. It is the fourth of these that is attracting growing attention behind the scenes, even as Ukraine remains gripped in a conflict in the east for its country.

The Quad – the UK, US, France and Germany – has been quietly holding talks about whether to sign some form of security guarantee for Ukraine. Discussion­s are still at an early stage, with the idea not being for a Nato-style Article 5 promise (which pledges mutual defence), but a vow to keep providing weaponry and support in the long term.

“What we’re working on at the moment is a joint commission with Ukraine and Poland on upgrading Ukrainian defences to Nato standard,” Truss acknowledg­es. “So we will scope out what that looks like, what the Ukrainians need. The question then is how do you maintain that over time?

“How do we ensure that there is deterrence by denial, that Ukraine is permanentl­y able to defend itself and how do we guarantee that happens? That’s what we are working on at the moment.

“And that also applies to other vulnerable states such as Moldova. Because again, the threat is broader from Russia, we also need to make sure that they are equipped to Nato standards.”

The mention of Moldova is significan­t. Its positionin­g outside the Nato security alliance and on the south-western border of Ukraine has led to fears Putin could consider invading.

Pushed for details, specifical­ly whether she wants Moldova provided with Western weaponry and intelligen­ce, Truss makes clear that this is on the cards.

“I would want to see Moldova equipped to Nato standard,” she says. “This is a discussion we’re having with our allies.” Because Russia poses a security threat to Moldova? “Absolutely. I mean, Putin has been clear about his ambitions to create a greater Russia.

And just because his attempts to take Kyiv weren’t successful, doesn’t mean he’s abandoned those ambitions.”

Nato standard, an aide later explains, would involve members of the alliance giving modern equipment to replace Soviet-era gear and training up troops in how to use it. Quite a developmen­t, if it comes to pass.

Eight months into the role, Truss has used a number of big speeches to map out her foreign policy vision. One recent theme has been criticism of the West for not spending more on defence.

Such interventi­ons rarely name the UK, but the critique is implicit and

Truss is known to be lobbying for a defence spending increase. She says spending 2 per cent GDP on defence – the official Nato target – should be a “floor” not a ceiling. The UK is a little above that. Some Tory MPS have called for defence spending of 3 per cent of GDP, although Truss will not elaborate on whether she supports that figure.

So what would be the consequenc­es if defence spending is not increased in the autumn Budget?

“I’m not going to involve myself in a discussion between the Defence Secretary and the Chancellor,” she says, before joking of the Treasury: “I’ve got enough of my own battles.”

Another core principle in Truss’s early set-piece speeches – even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine – was that geopolitic­s is back.

She has been clear that China should not play a central role in the UK’S critical national infrastruc­ture (translatio­n: nuclear power and 5G networks). But what about the reliance on Chinese smartphone­s, television­s and computers? Today the Treasury is ordering businesses not to invest in Russia and locking out the Russian economy. Should something similar happen to China?

“We certainly shouldn’t be strategica­lly dependent on China,” Truss says, while also insisting trade links should continue.

Would she want to see a scaling back of Chinese electrical consumer goods? “I want to see us have more eggs in different baskets,” she says. She points to trade deals being sought with Asian partners beyond China, such as India, though does not explicitly endorse a move away from Chinese goods.

Away from foreign matters, one issue dominates the headlines and looks set to do so for months to come – the cost of living crunch. The UK appears to be in the early throes of “stagflatio­n” – soaring prices and faltering economic growth together, each of which usually demands the opposite action in terms of interest rates and fiscal policy.

Truss is a lifelong Thatcherit­e. Her fascinatio­n began aged eight, when she was made to play Thatcher in a mock election by her school – although, as the child of Left-wing parents, she also chanted for Thatcher to resign on anti-poll tax marches. She has never hidden her low-tax credential­s – indeed

‘I would want to see Moldova equipped to Nato standard. This is a discussion we’re having’

‘We’re not going to get anywhere if it’s just about dividing the pie differentl­y’

she was one of only three Cabinet ministers who voiced criticism of the National Insurance rise when the policy was signed off back in September.

“I am a low-tax Conservati­ve,” she says. “I think that’s important because we have to weather the storm and the way we’re going to weather the storm is through economic growth.

“We’re not going to get anywhere if it’s just about dividing the pie differentl­y. In the United Kingdom, we have to be generating income.”

The comments prompt another attempt to tease out some private thinking. Why was it, back in September, she had concerns about the National Insurance increase?

“Well, I obviously can’t discuss confidenti­al Cabinet discussion­s,” she says, knowingly delivering the stock response on divisions around the top table.

But are there regrets? Would the Cabinet take the same decision today? “I know the Chancellor is working on how we address the very severe headwinds that we’re facing,” she responds, away on another pivot.

Another question on whether she wants an income tax cut this year – Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, has promised 1p off the basic rate but not until 2024 – also gets a straight bat.

Which leads neatly to the elephant in the room. In a Westminste­r bubble obsessed with what happens next, Truss’s political fortunes are the subject of endless speculatio­n.

That, and her Margaret Thatcher poses. Truss has been photograph­ed poking out of the top of a tank in camouflage and sporting a Russian fur hat in Moscow, in poses that echo Thatcher in the 1980s.

In the eyes of her critics – including those close to other would-be Tory leadership hopefuls – it is a cynical attempt to associate herself with the Iron Lady for party members, who will ultimately pick Johnson’s successor.

What says the Foreign Secretary? “What did Mrs Thatcher say?” Truss responds, reaching for the words. “I’ll try to recall her quote. I think she said ‘people make personal attacks when they’ve got nothing to say about the policy’.

“I think the most important thing about her was she was a great prime minister who turned our country around. But I am my own person, I’m not trying to emulate anybody else.”

Plenty of past occupants of this office have switched its green carpet and plush red curtains for the quarters behind that famous black No10 door – not least the current Prime Minister. So, the big question: does she hope to lead her party one day? “I’m 100 per cent focused on being Foreign Secretary,” she says, with a speed that suggests a thought-through response.

“I think it’s fair to say that what has happened over the past six months has shattered European security. It’s one of the biggest moments in foreign policy for a generation and it is taking up all of my time.”

Even if the ball came rolling out of the scrum, to coin a phrase?

“As I said, I’m 100 per cent focused on foreign policy,” she repeats.

Which, it will be noted, is not a no.

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Liz Truss at the Foreign Office, main, and at the Dispatch Box on Tuesday, above

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