The Daily Telegraph

What the Wagner boss said: a Q & A with Yevgeny Prigozhin

- By Gordon Rayner

Yevgeny Prigozhin

told The Daily Telegraph he was a “pacifist” in his first interview with a Western media organisati­on in 2021. Until Russia invaded Ukraine last year, Prigozhin went to enormous lengths to deny any involvemen­t with the Wagner mercenary group, using lawyers and the press watchdog to warn off anyone who dared suggest he was linked to it.

The interview with Prigozhin was conducted via questions submitted to his lawyers, to which he sent back responses.

Q Do you have any connection to the Wagner Group or similar Russian paramilita­ry forces?

A I very much appreciate the question and can say with confidence that I have no connection whatsoever to Wagner Group or any other mercenary groups. However, it worries me greatly that some people think I have such a connection. I am a pacifist.

Q Why do you think you have been linked with the Wagner Group?

A The last news I heard about the Wagner Group was an article… that says [the group] does not exist… I do not know why I have become a minor character in America’s geopolitic­al fairytales. Perhaps you will also ask me why the US government thought the kids they droned in Afghanista­n were terrorists.

Q How can Western audiences better understand the concerns and motivation­s of the Russian state and President Putin specifical­ly?

A The Russian state exists to protect the interests of the people of the Russian Federation and Russian people. If you want to understand what Russia will do in a particular situation, ask yourself, “What is in the interests of the Russian people, in a real, material sense?”: sovereignt­y, prosperity, independen­ce and security. But I have never served in the Russian government and, it bears repeating, I am not closely acquainted with President Putin. Therefore I cannot give any recommenda­tions.

Q How do you characteri­se the relationsh­ip between the UK and Russia at present?

A

As far as I can tell, the UK and Russia do not have an independen­t state-tostate relationsh­ip, except in a purely formal, diplomatic sense. UK policy towards Russia always follows US foreign policy towards Russia. The US has defined its relationsh­ip with Russia, and also China, as one of “great power competitio­n”. So the relationsh­ip between the UK and Russia is this: the US and Russia are great powers in competitio­n with each other, and the UK has volunteere­d to help the US in that competitio­n.

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