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FROM TORMENT ENT TO TV TRIUMPH PH

How personal battles gave writer the perfect material for comedy

- Simon Carlyle TV WRITER Interviewe­d by Brian Beacom

IF, AS is often claimed, a writer is the sum of their experience­s, Simon Carlyle must have led a very busy life.

So far, Ayr-born Carlyle has created sitcom television set in the worlds of the tanning salon, a Burns recital competitio­n, a local ice rink, a west coast caravan park and a gay sauna.

Now, Carlyle and writing partner Gregor Sharp have created Two Doors Down, a delicious observatio­nal piece which takes a Brillo pad to the pretentiou­sness of aspiration­al life in a Glasgow suburb.

Already set to be commission­ed for a second series before the first has even aired, it’s full of Carlyle’s trademark characters – bitchy, acerbic, outrageous­ly forthright – and funny.

But what experience­s has the soft-spoken, dryly funny writer enjoyed – or endured – in his 40 years to have manifested themselves in TV form?

“Bankruptcy, many desperate attempts to make it as a comedy writer, going bankrupt again,” he says, with a wry grin, sipping coffee in Glasgow’s Rogano restaurant.

It’s all true. But there’s more. Much more. Here’s an early example. “At the age of 12 I wanted to be in London doing drag cabaret,” says Carlyle, with a straight face. “But you can’t really say that when you’re standing in Ayr High Street wearing a Lyle & Scott jumper, waiting for your mum to come out of the butchers.

“Ayr was just an awful place to be gay. In the circles I was in I’m not sure if I’d have been beaten up, but I certainly wasn’t for coming out. I had to have fake girlfriend­s, and it was bloody awful.”

Was he ever an Elton – in that he became engaged? “I was never that desperate,” he squeals. Did he break girls’ hearts? “No.” He adds: “Look, I would boil the kettle for girls, but I’d never make the tea. What helped me was knowing a couple of gay guys from my figure skating. I learned enough to know I should never take a wife and join a golf club.”

Carlyle grew up an outsider; a perfect position for looking in on the world. But with this place on the periphery came angst. He was 18 when he came out to his parents, who were understand­ing, yet he couldn’t develop relationsh­ips. “There was also the emergence of Aids. Not only did I panic about telling people I was a poof, I reckoned I was going to die because of my sexual preference. I felt trapped. Dark.”

Neurosis set in. He developed OCD. “Repetitive thoughts; fear of being found out ... fear of being found out. I wasn’t well adjusted coming out of my teens, to put it mildly.”

Carlyle sought profession­al help, which helped, but what to do with his life? He reckoned on a career as an ice skater but his parents put the brakes on that choice and university beckoned. However the French and Psychology course excited him even less than the girls he’d dated, and he dropped out. He worked in Butlins for a while. Tell me a cheeky story about camp life, Simon? “I can’t,” he says with a mischievou­s grin. “All I can say is that one adventure involved Gary from the sunbeds. But at least I got free tokens.”

The good-looking young man was offered the chance to model for teen magazines such as Jackie. He worked as an extra on Taggart. “The next thing I knew an assistant director was looking for someone to wear a pink T-shirt to play a rent boy. I thought, ‘I could do that.’ And I did.”

More life experience. More colour to offer a writer. But at this point he hadn’t written more than a Job Centre applicatio­n. “Then, for some reason, I don’t know what, I began going along, alone, to TV studio recordings of a comedy TV show called Pulp Video in 1995.

“When I watched this show I knew I wanted to work in television. But I had no idea as what. So I went on a media course, and was offered a job (with STV) on the Wheel of Fortune – as Nicky Campbell’s assistant. Producer Anne Mason decided I scrubbed up all right and had me modelling the dishwasher­s.”

The dishwasher model moved to children’s TV with BBC Scotland as a researcher and presenter but he says he was “awful, this very dark presence”.

However, one day, while working on Fully Booked with Gail Porter and Tim Vincent, a light-bulb moment occurred; a sketch demanded someone play a cleaner. Carlyle volunteere­d, (a chance to drag up at last?) and – energised – he began to write monologues for his character.

“I don’t think I realised it at the time, but my cleaner was probably based on the fabulous Dorothy Paul’s famous cleaner act. And suddenly I was a writer.” A tape went to the head of BBC3 and a sitcom script was commission­ed. Carlyle co-wrote with a young man he’d first met at STV, Gregor Sharp. “Gregor taught me writing structure. And I taught him all the filthy jokes I’d learned in the gay bars of Glasgow.”

Terri McIntyre (played by Carlyle in drag ) became a BBC3 cult and Carlyle and Sharp were hailed as “the next big thing”. Was Carlyle now in his own world? “What, as a woman? Oh, yes,” he says with a disingenuo­us giggle, “although I wouldn’t want to live as a woman full time.”

The success propelled him to London. More experience. But not all good. Aged 24, hubris banged hard on the door of his rented Soho flat and common sense flew out the window. Seems his partying and drinking would have made Caligula look like a choir boy. “Not drugs, though. I knew that would be a step too far for me. I’d lose my mind. But I felt the success would last forever.”

It didn’t of course. He wasn’t writing. When he wasn’t drunk he worked in bars to pay the rent. “I had no money. I lived next to the BBC and at one point worked for a temp agency, who sent me to the BBC to answer the phones on the central hotline. On the first day, two people called from Glasgow, and recognised my voice. ‘Simon, is that you? What the hell are you doing ...?’”

Burnt out and bankrupt, Carlyle was drinking so much he couldn’t get out of bed to write. Then a saviour appeared in the form of actress Maria McErlane, who now appears on Graham Norton’s radio show.

“She told me I had to sort myself out or I wasn’t going to work anymore. And I did. A producer told me to write what I knew about, and I thought ‘I only know about ice skating.’”

The result was sitcom Thin Ice, in 2006, which showed promise but was deemed a little too flimsy to make a second series. More experience. But then came a Carlyle/Sharp corker, No Holds Bard, set in the world of a Burns recital competitio­n. The critics loved it and the success propelled the writing partners on to a BBC Scotland caravan park sitcom – Happy Holidays – which was sadly static. “We knew how we didn’t want to do things in the future and who we didn’t want to do it with,” he says in soft, conspirato­rial voice.

More experience. The writing chums worked on separate projects; Carlyle became a script editor with Tiger Aspect Production, working on Benidorm, Jack Whitehall’s very clever Bad Education and developed BBC 2 transgende­r comedy Boy Meets Girl, for which he won a Stonewall Award.

However, the pair got back on the horse together to create Two Doors Down. Two years ago, the pilot aired to great critical acclaim. This new series should confirm the pair as a British writing double act in the tradition of Marks and Gran, or even Galton and Simpson.

Carlyle, in particular, clearly writes wonderfull­y for women, an empathetic observer in the vein of Coronation Street creator Tony Warren. Now there’s even a hint he’s enjoying his success.

“When you grow up in the west of Scotland it’s not in your bones to be self-congratula­tory. But last week I got a lovely praising e-mail from Russell T Davies. (He produces it, proudly). And this is the first time I’ve allowed myself the thought ‘Maybe I can do this after all.”

He adds, grinning; “But I still think about running off and becoming a drag queen.”

Two Doors Down, BBC2, Friday, April 1, 9pm.

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 ??  ?? BOUNCING BACK: After difficult formative years, Simon Carlyle is making his mark in the world of comedy wrting. Picture: Martin Shields
BOUNCING BACK: After difficult formative years, Simon Carlyle is making his mark in the world of comedy wrting. Picture: Martin Shields

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