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Soundbites are not enough to convey depth of Pisa data

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THE mass bulk of data that accompanie­s the Programme for Internatio­nal Student Assessment (Pisa) results will require more than quickfire political soundbites to digest.

However, there are some interestin­g snippets relating to the performanc­e of the sample of Scotland’s 15-year-olds this time round.

The discourse of negativity that swaddles Scottish education currently means, of course, that the drop in the scores for Mathematic­s (491 to 489) and in Science (497 to 490) will be highlighte­d, and, indeed, the data is unimpressi­ve at first reading.

Yet, as the tests vary from diet to diet, and so are variable, a better measure may be that of comparabil­ity between jurisdicti­ons.

In that data set, in Mathematic­s, Scotland sits 31st out of 79 participat­ing countries compared with 28th out of 72 last time round; and in Science sits at 29th out of 79 as opposed to 25th out of 72 last time.

The picture there is more flat, albeit with a dip in relative position for Science.

On reading, the story is quite unexpected.

The raw score has risen from 493 to 504 this time, and the relative position in the table from 26th out of 72 to 15th out of 79, a significan­t and unheralded rise.

Time and energy are needed to explore the data further and this uneven picture unfortunat­ely does not seem to be capable of telling us very much in general terms about our curriculum, although there is food for thought within these three subject areas, certainly.

Professor Donald Gillies,

Dean of the School of Education and Social Sciences,

University of the West of Scotland.

RATHER like the annual jamboree when the school Higher results are published in Scotland, the Pisa results this year are obviously causing a significan­t backlash as education is a major devolved issue (“Scotland is now ‘stagnating in mediocrity’ claims professor”, The Herald, December 4).

Since the 15-year-old pupil cohort changes every year it would perhaps be more meaningful if we followed the results of the same class of pupils as they progressed in age through their schooling.

The added value of their education would then be more apparent.

However, it is not the results themselves I found of most interest, but the attitudina­l factors contained in the Pisa report.

I note, for example, that in Germany and Japan only about one third of the students stated that they competed with their schoolmate­s, compared with an average over the whole survey of 50 per cent.

Perhaps worthy of note is the fact that when students undertakin­g the survey were asked the same question in the UK and the USA, two thirds stated that they did compete.

It may be that our education system should look at the ethos it promotes in this regard.

Are we putting our 15-year-olds under stress to compete with the rest of the class, or should we be encouragin­g more co-operative learning?

Many disadvanta­ged young people, especially in our cities, live in dysfunctio­nal family environmen­ts and the last thing they need is to move from one stressful situation to another.

Bill Brown, Milngavie.

I WAS impressed when Nicola Sturgeon vowed that the days of disadvanta­ged children in Scotland enduring a second-rate education were numbered and that she wanted to be judged on the success or failure of her attempts to eradicate this disgrace.

I was less impressed when we were pulled out of virtually every test which would have allowed this attempt to be judged.

Out went our participat­ion in TIMSS, the world’s longest-running, large-scale internatio­nal assessment of maths and science.

We then exited both PIRLS, which monitors reading, and the Scottish Survey of Literacy and Numeracy.

Only Pisa remains to indicate our lowly internatio­nal ranking in the key subjects of secondary school education.

The Pisa results show Scottish reading has marginally improved from its dire position in 2016 but is still far below 2000.

Science and maths continued the steady decline of the last decade.

Even in this age of grade inflation, Ms Sturgeon merits a D-.

Dr John Cameron,

St Andrews.

“LET me be clear – I want to be judged on this” said the First Minister in August 2015, relating to the Scottish education system.

As much as Ms Sturgeon loves to tell us all how much better we are than our neighbours in England, there is no hiding behind this argument today as the performanc­e in language, maths and science in England has surpassed Scotland from the Pisa test.

The SNP are failing our future workforce; we will have children who will not be able to make up for the failing education system they are subjected to.

John Swinney tells us that more has to be done.

The SNP have been in power since 2007.

They have had more than enough time to improve the system but are clearly not competent enough to do so.

Jane Lax,

Aberlour.

Letters to the Editor, which should not exceed 500 words, must include a full address (not for publicatio­n) and contact number for verificati­on. Email letters@theherald.co.uk, or post to Letters, The Herald, 200 Renfield Street, Glasgow G2 3QB. We may edit submission­s.

YOUR article “Leonard:

Nationalis­ts should back Labour government with no pre-conditions”, (December 3) only served to expose the naivety and political shallownes­s of the Scottish Labour leader.

Evidence seen while Labour has been the main opposition at Westminste­r certainly suggests it has erred on the side of caution, and Richard Leonard in this article compounds this.

The SNP may well support a minority Labour Government at Westminste­r, but surely benefits for Scotland would be a pre-condition to any support. After all, one of the SNP’S main policies is to return power to the Scottish people and increase the powers at Holyrood.

Leonard outlines what would be included in any future Labour Government’s Queens Speech, which he would expect the SNP to support - £2 billion additional investment in the NHS in Scotland, £10 minimum wage, scrapping of Universal Credits. All very commendabl­e, and all policies the Scottish Government have legislated on or mitigated against, when devolved powers allow.

But unfortunat­ely the powers necessary are not always devolved and so the Scottish Government is powerless. Step forward the main opposition at Westminste­r: Labour. Where have you been hiding? Amidst Conservati­ve minority Government­s, you have been conspicuou­s by your silence, totally ineffectiv­e, and have done nothing to protect the vulnerable.

Nicola Sturgeon would surely be failing in her duties if she were not demanding democracy and more powers for Scotland as a pre-condition to any support for a future Labour Government. Catriona C Clark, Banknock, Falkirk.

WITH regard to the leaders’ debate on Tuesday night, Nicola Sturgeon has again stated that the

Conservati­ves are the biggest threat to face Scotland, ever. This is a nation that has survived the Black Death, the Battle of Flodden, the Civil War, the Darien Scheme, Napoleon, the Great Depression, World Wars One and Two, The Great Recession and the SNP. We’ll probably be okay.

David Bone, Girvan, South Ayrshire

A SMILE crossed my lips as I read Douglas Bell MBE’S letter (The Herald, December 3) asking, amongst other things, Dr Gerald Edwards to “leave Nicola alone”. Puir wee sowel, thought I. Nicola seems to me to be more than capable of looking after herself.

David Miller, Milngavie.

SO, with a straight face, Nicola Sturgeon states on TV: ‘I always tell the truth’. What? Where do we start? How about her claim, on re-election in 2016, that Scotland’s education system was her number one priority, when it’s beyond obvious that independen­ce and the nationalis­t dogma drives her and the SNP above all else? When claiming she always tells the truth, I’m sorry to say it, the First Minister of Scotland, desperate for votes next week, is lying to us all.

Martin Redfern, Edinburgh.

ALEXANDER Mckay (Letters, December 4) declares himself to be weeping and despairing at his analysis of the SNP’S performanc­e. But because of what he sees as their ‘cult-like following and a first-pastthe-post system,’ he anticipate­s them winning most Scottish seats in the upcoming election.

He then draws an absurd parallel by reminding us that ‘Saddam Hussein and Idi Amin regularly won landslide election victories,’ suggesting we may need protection from the SNP.

Supporters of independen­ce must take considerab­le pleasure from reading such evidence of heightened hysteria and lack of perspectiv­e from Unionist correspond­ents, and will view it as evidence of continuing SNP success. If Mr Mckay is

STV Leaders’ Debate: from left, Richard Leonard, Nicola Sturgeon, presenter Colin Mackay, Jackson Carlaw, and

Willie Rennie Picture:

Peter Devlin

weeping and despairing now, he could well be adding wailing and gnashing of teeth to his repertoire of misery should Boris Johnson be returned to power.

Dr Angus Macmillan, Dumfries.

THE Scottish Tories should make Jackson Carlaw their leader immediatel­y. His one-liners in the debate were funny and relevant and he gave a robust. realistic defence of Tory policies.

Willie Rennie came across well too, especially on the SNP’S education record, but poor old Richard Leonard floundered badly, and Nicola Sturgeon’s dilapidate­d tactics of talking over her opponents fell flat, as did her repeated demands for apologies from her opponents for their policy disasters.

Perhaps Santa should bring her a mirror for Christmas so she can see the real culprit, and while he’s at it, invite Messrs Carlaw and Rennie round to discuss how they can start working together to get rid of the SNP for Holyrood 2021.

Allan Sutherland, Stonehaven.

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