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Architect’s vision to put George Square at the heart of the city

John McAslan on why George Square has been ‘wounded by ugly Queen Street Station’

- TEDDY JAMIESON

Now at the age of 70, John McAslan reckons he is finally getting to grips with being an architect. “My great hero was Louis Kahn who didn’t really produce a good building until he was 60,” McAslan is telling me while walking to the nearest London Tube station. “I now feel confident that I can probably do a decent building. It’s begun to click on what I think architectu­re is. It’s taken about 50 years.”

This all might come as news to those who have seen McAslan’s work which dates back, after all, to the 1980s.

The British High Commission in Nairobi in Kenya (1989) has its admirers, as has his Apple Computers Headquarte­rs in Stockley Park in London (1989-1991), or even his redevelopm­ent of the De La Warr Pavilion in Bexhill-on-Sea (1991-2005), never mind his practice’s thrilling refurbishm­ent of King’s Cross Station (1997-2012), or the Delhi Metro (20062010), or the Msheireb Mosque in Doha (2017), or Well, you get the message.

Whatever McAslan thinks, his practice John McAslan + Partners has won more than 200 internatio­nal design awards and has offices in London, Sydney, New York, Belfast and, of course, McAslan’s homeland,

Scotland. It does rather suggest he’s long known what he’s doing.

And many have noticed. Last year the publisher Thames & Hudson published a sumptuous monograph on McAslan’s career, Making Architectu­re. In 2022 The Financial Times described him as “the master of architectu­ral reinventio­n,” citing his work at King’s Cross, his extensive redevelopm­ent of The Burrell in Glasgow and his practice’s ongoing work redevelopi­ng Penn Station in New York.

“From the youngest age I was always interested in making things better than they were,” McAslan tells me.

“We’ve been doing this for 40 odd years and it’s not something we’ve ever shouted about. It’s just been natural.”

It is midday on a Friday and McAslan is getting ready to go into work for the afternoon when we speak. “I’m one of those sad b**tards who goes to work on a Friday, but somebody has to do it, Teddy. It’s even sadder when you don’t mind.”

But before that he is talking to me, about art and architectu­re and climate change and The Beatles and homelessne­ss and George Square and anything else that crosses his mind.

Oh, but McAslan is a tonic. Words and ideas rat-a-tat out of him at speed. He is constantly in fifth gear and then he’ll come to a corner, shift down and ask, “What was your question?” Usually I’m so far behind him trying to catch up that I can’t remember.

Right at the beginning of our conversati­on I ask him, what is architectu­re for?

For the following 20 minutes he gives me a disquisiti­on on the importance of art and the sciences which takes in his involvemen­t with the Burgh Hall in his home town of Dunoon (which he helped save from demolition, buying it for £1 and then played a part in bringing it back to life; he’s now the chair of the Trust), his plans for its future, climate change, the uselessnes­s of politician­s, the Bilbao effect and the role architectu­re has to play in contempora­ry life.

Here are the edited highlights..

Architectu­re, McAslan argues, must grapple with the issues of the day; climate change, poverty, homelessne­ss. Without affordable housing, he points out, how can you solve the latter?

“I think, for the profession to have meaning it must be at the centre of those conversati­ons, not at the edge of them. And therefore architectu­re has got a huge and fundamenta­l importance, but only if we as architects engage in the issues of the day and have a powerful voice.

“Otherwise, we become slaves to clients who want cheaply built buildings, weak planning systems that allow buildings that are built too big and are unsustaina­ble.

“So, long-winded answer to say I think architectu­re is incredibly relevant and is maybe the most important “He stops and asks himself a question. “Is it the most important? “

A beat, two beats. “Certainly, you can’t miss it,” he decides.

“What we can do is bring our skill to bear and I think make the world a better place. But we need to work hard in thinking, what is that and how do we express it? And how do we position

the profession at the heart of the world rather than as a peripheral thing.”

McAslan wants to do the same in his role as chair of the Burgh Hall Trust in Dunoon. He tells me he is keen to revisit the artist Joseph Beuys’s idea of planting 7000 Oaks in the 21st century. “Imagine all the ecological benefits.”

McAslan also fancies building a modern-day Kon Tiki, a raft out of the debris washed up from the Holy Loch and then sailing it somewhere. “I don’t know how far you’d get. I shouldn’t be the captain. I’d be blown out into the Atlantic and lost forever.”

What might be noticeable in all of this is that at no point has he talked about form or materialit­y or any of the concepts we might expect architects to engage with.

When I ask him how he first became interested in architectu­re growing up in Dunoon he begins by talking about The Beatles.

“When I was a kid I didn’t really have much engagement with architectu­re. But every Christmas time I would get a Beatles album. That was the big present. What I used to do is, I would draw the Beatles albums.”

In short, he would copy the album covers (“it was very easy with the White Album”). That in turn led him to start drawing the ranch houses he used to see in American magazines brought to Dunoon by American servicemen. “I was really taken by ranch houses and all the things we didn’t have.”

And this would eventually lead him to study architectu­re at Edinburgh University. After graduating and travelling around America he worked with the architect Richard Rogers which was to prove hugely inspiratio­nal.

“I worked at Richard Rogers’s office for a long time. He was a fantastic man, amazingly supportive of young architects and I benefited from knowing him after I left the practice. Amazingly generous.

“He was a great source of inspiratio­n for me. And it just so happened that he produced a number of brilliant buildings that were hi-tech in this

country. But it resonated with me because it was an architectu­re that was non-hierarchic­al. It was pop architectu­re.”

Working for Rogers also gave McAslan an insight into the importance of the applicatio­n of research and architectu­ral knowledge.

“A lot of architects go to a source like, say, Zaha Hadid and they get a gorgeous shape, but don’t actually interrogat­e how she got there.

“Therefore it’s just blobby stuff that has no meaning, whereas Zaha was an artist who developed and then honed her approach.”

McAslan has had plenty of time to hone its approach on one project in particular. George Square. In 2013 his practice won the original competitio­n to redesign Glasgow’s central hub, only for the plan to be cancelled almost immediatel­y.

In 2021 McAslan + Partners were successful again in a competitio­n rerun and work is expected to conclude on the George Square redevelopm­ent in 2027.

“We are making progress and developing the scheme. It’s moving forward,” McAslan says today. “And the real challenge for us is how far can the project extend itself in its various directions.

“It’s not just about the square, it’s about the avenues that lead to and from the square and connect the city to the west. A little bit to the east towards the historic part of the city, south to the merchant city. Less perhaps to the north. It’s such a steep hill.

“So, to me, the key thing is how far can we go to join it all up and therefore for the impact to be felt as far as possible.

“The budget is so constraine­d it could be spent many many times more and therefore we have to be incredibly careful - like the Burrell - to allow the budget to extend as far as possible. And we have to get as much possible use out of the square itself without turning it into a fairground.”

It’s a chance to do something he has expressed a love for before. Placemakin­g.

Well, up to a point, he says. “Probably our istinct is to do less than more with the space because it’s wounded, of course, by the ugly

Queen Street Station. I think what’s happened to Queen Street Station is pretty second-rate.

“On three sides it’s very handsome. It’s a gorgeous space to be in. The civic chambers and the buildings to the south and the west side are great buildings. And then the avenues that lead from it.

“It’s a brilliant space, so we have to make it so that it resonates historical­ly, that we extend the public realm as far as we can and that we ensure it’s affordable and maintainab­le.”

What does this all mean? Perhaps that at 70 McAslan is just getting started. He’s about to restructur­e his business ownership but the word retirement is not in the blueprint.

“I hope no one thinks I’m going anywhere. The only way I’m leaving here is in a box with a lid. On or off, you can choose.”

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Making Architectu­re: The Work of John McAslan + Partners is published by Thames & Hudson
John McAslan is speaking at the Boswell Book Festival, Dumfries House on May 11 at 10.45am. Making Architectu­re: The Work of John McAslan + Partners is published by Thames & Hudson
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Clockwise from left: Architect John McAslan; The George Square and Avenues artist impression; McAslan’s practice redesigned King’s Cross railway station in London
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being an architect
John McAslan says it has taken 50 years for him to get to grips with being an architect

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