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‘Greta Thunberg? Oh, she is awfully Spikey’

Private Eye editor Ian Hislop reveals why comic genius SpikeMilli­gan would have loved the teenage and outspoken climate change activist

- By Murray Scougall mscougall@sundaypost.com

For fans his free-wheeling, anarchic, pitch-black humour more or less invented modern comedy but Spike Milligan was also an environmen­tal trail-blazer, according to Ian Hislop.

The editor of Private Eye says the comic, who died 20 years ago, not only pioneered satirical comedy but was also outspoken on green issues years before they became a global priority.

Hislop, who has co-written a new stage play about Milligan’s years on The Goon Show, believes he would be sharing a platform with environmen­tal campaigner­s like Greta Thunberg if he was alive today.

“He was very green and did a lot of eco work when it wasn’t popular,” said the Have I Got News For You panellist. “Some of the things people regarded about Spike as being difficult or stroppy would be quite mainstream now.

“He was preserving trees in parks and talking about green issues – comedians weren’t doing that. A lot of the things he talked about, people would now be saying, yes, you’re right. It’s one of the things he shared with King Charles, who was his great fan.

“Spike would have stood beside Greta Thunberg and he would have liked her, because she’s so rude. That would have appealed to him. Her blah-blah-blah speech was very Spike-y, really. Being difficult was his thing.”

So, too, was being funny, and it was this aspect that Hislop and his long-time writing partner, Nick Newman, wanted to explore in Spike, which covers the India-born comedian’s years after coming out of the Army to the huge popularity of The Goons despite being in almost constant conflict with his bosses at the BBC.

“What we’ve tried to do is find the melting pot in the ’50s when variety was dying out and a whole new brand of comedy – surreal, subversive, anarchic – lit up austerity Britain, and what the genesis of that was,” explained Newman, whose writing career with Hislop dates back to their university days and includes Spitting Image and three other stage plays and a feature film.

Hislop continued: “I knew Spike from his wartime writing but it was Nick who told me how good The Goons scripts were – they were incredible. You can feel Spike’s influence everywhere. There was a moment when we were asked to pitch for an adaptation of his war books – a sort of comic Band Of Brothers – and we went along and said we’d open it with a recording of The Goon Show, and the assistant producer said, ‘Who are The Goons?’. So we didn’t get that job but it made us think we could do a play about The Goons ourselves.”

Milligan was injured in an explosion at the Battle of Monte Cassino, being hospitalis­ed for a mortar wound to his leg and shell shock. The physical wound healed but the mental trauma remained and his experience would go on to colour his comedy, often shading it pitch-black.

Newman said: “The jokes he was doing before he was blown up were funny but they didn’t have the same attitude towards authority that The Goon Show was infused by – the shell shock gave him an edge.

His jokes become much darker. There’s an interview he did with Dr Anthony Clare for In The Psychiatri­st’s Chair, where he talks about his depression and bipolar nature. He said, ‘Of course, my mother was highly strung; she was hanging from the ceiling’. It was such a black, but funny, joke. He showed that even in the depths of depression he was still making jokes and wanting to make people laugh and he turned it into comedy.

“There are many people who suffer from mental health problems, but there was only one Spike Milligan who turned it into comedy gold.”

But the pair didn’t want to focus the play on his demons, and instead they accessed a wealth of correspond­ence between Milligan and the BBC, which featured both parties at constant loggerhead­s, to tell the story of that conflict rather than the one rumbling on inside his head.

“We didn’t want to focus on the mental health issues but instead we wished to make it an out-and-out celebratio­n, where people would come out of the theatre feeling happy rather than thinking why was he ever considered funny when he had all of these demons,” Newman explained.”

“Essentiall­y, he needed something to fight against,” Hislop said. “In the Army, it was the officer class and the general incompeten­ce of the war. Then he went to the BBC and found the same people there. We’ve used a lot of the correspond­ence because it’s so unintentio­nally funny from the Beeb’s point of view.

“He was a difficult bloke and we haven’t shied away from that. He had a difficult relationsh­ip with the other Goons, especially Sellers, who was becoming absurdly famous and going into films, while it was Spike who was writing the entirety of The Goons scripts, which is kind of annoying, I think.”

Newman added: “There’s a line in the BBC’s correspond­ence which says that (Harry) Secombe is clearly the talent because he can sing, (Peter) Sellers has his voices, but Milligan is something of a freak contributo­r because not only does he write it all but he does voices and performs, too. They didn’t know what to do with him. It becomes apparent that he is being paid half what the other two got, which really rankled with him.

“He ended up writing to the director-general about his level of pay. He was once paid a special fee, which he worked out was less than what he normally got. He pointed it out and also discovered that Galton and Simpson, who were writing Hancock’s Half Hour, were being paid more jointly than he was getting for The Goon Show. He was told that there was two of them, so they couldn’t survive if they split the money between them.”

The Goon Show ran from 1951 – when it was first known as Crazy People – to 1960 but Milligan was constantly paranoid about being sacked and there were 30 attempts to get rid of The Goon Show, which Hislop described as “an amazing badge of honour”.

The Goons were the “first post-war mania”, according to Newman, pre-dating Elvis or The Beatles. “They would do things for the fun of it, like deciding to write the worst song and get it into the charts, which they did with The Ying Tong Song.

“They could do anything they liked and that’s partly where Spike’s bitterness came from. Despite the success, he was never happy as a result of it. In our play, Secombe is the voice of reason and he tells Spike that this is as good as it gets and you don’t appreciate it now, but we’re living in a golden age. I think Secombe recognised it but Spike didn’t until it was too late; he spent the ’50s and ’60s railing against the powers that be.”

Hislop added: “When you meet someone later in life, it’s easy to forget how extraordin­ary they were as young men, and you become used to the idea of them as old people. I thought, we could write something where they were young again and they shocked the hell out of everyone. Goon-mania was a real thing.”

Spike, Theatre Royal, Glasgow, November 1-5

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The busy brain of writer, actor, comedian, musician, poet and playwright Spike Milligan as featured in the posters for Spike, a new play about his time at the BBC
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Greta Thunberg at Cop26 in Glasgow last year after famously telling a rally the climate change summit was only “blah, blah, blah”
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 ?? ?? The Goons, Peter Sellers, Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, pictured in the 1970s
The Goons, Peter Sellers, Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, pictured in the 1970s

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