Albany Times Union (Sunday)

Defining debates downward

- ▶ cseiler@timesunion.com 518454-5619

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is down on debates. Again.

“These debates are not what they used to be,” he said Thursday in a visit to the Syracuse Post Standard’s editorial board, just hours before the other gubernator­ial candidates gathered at the College of Saint Rose for a 90-minute debate sponsored by the League of Women Voters.

You can watch that debate online; it was a substantiv­e discussion that gave Republican Marc Molinaro, Green candidate Howie Hawkins, Libertaria­n Larry Sharpe and Stephanie Miner of the Serve America Movement a proper forum to lay out their respective platforms. (In the interests of full disclosure, I was asked to serve on the panel of questioner­s but had to beg off due to a previously scheduled congressio­nal debate the same night.)

Cuomo said in Syracuse that he prefers taking part in “teletown halls,” in which candidates take calls from the public — or people claiming to be members of the public — that can be prescreene­d by his flunkies to weed out pain-in-the-keister subjects. His administra­tion has over recent years escalated its use of a similar technique for conference calls with reporters; the governor has largely curtailed holding press conference­s at the Capitol, a large building with many rooms capable of holding such gatherings.

Warming to the subject in Syracuse, Cuomo denounced the more traditiona­l debate format in much the same way that Johnny Rotten used to deride corporate rock ’n’ roll: “People have such suspicion about these pre-orchestrat­ed situations,” Cuomo said of those squaresvil­le debates in which reporters wellversed on the issues ask questions the candidates might not be expecting. “They want to ask their own questions. My campaign has been about touching as many people as I can, communicat­ing directly.”

This episode of “Touched By a Cuomo” was a rerun of his 2014 kvetch that debates sometimes do “a disservice to democracy” — a likely reference to 2010’s clownish seven-candidate gubernator­ial debate on Long Island that included Cuomo and his Republican opponent Carl Paladino, who got up in the middle of the debate to answer the call of nature. Also on the bill was Jimmy Mcmillan of the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, who came to the event dressed to play bass in a Prince cover band, and former procuress Kristin Davis.

This time around, Cuomo professed similar disappoint­ment over the quality of the Oct. 23 CBS debate that was, is and shall be the only one-on-one debate between himself and his Republican opponent Marc Molinaro. That encounter, poorly moderated and staged like a roundtable discussion, quickly devolved into an I’m-rubber-you’re-glue imbroglio that generated precious

little edifying policy discussion.

Cuomo’s criticism, of course, was akin to a guy who douses a barn in kerosene and fills it with highway flares and oily rags, and then expresses regret when it burns to the ground. The governor pretty much ensured his encounter with Molinaro would be a mess by waiting until virtually the last minute to sign aboard, after ignoring earlier debate invitation­s from a host of organizati­ons and media outlets that might have provided a less fast-food forum.

It’s been a lousy season for traditiona­l debates, despite the yeoman work done by pros like Liz Benjamin of Spectrum News and Errol Louis of NY1, who took part in generally excellent forums with the major-party candidates for comptrolle­r and attorney general. That pair was on deck to moderate an Oct. 21 matchup between U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and her Republican opponent Chele Farley, which Gillibrand pulled out of 50 hours before showtime rather than cross a “virtual picket line” planned by the Internatio­nal Brotherhoo­d of Electric Workers, which is in a longstandi­ng labor dispute with Spectrum/ny1’s parent, Charter Communicat­ions. (More disclosure: I was part of a brief last-ditch effort to revive the debate, a futile endeavor that impeded an otherwise lovely dinner with my wife and ended with Skidmore properly deciding not to proceed in the absence of a broadcast partner.)

IBEW’S dispute was a rather flexible impediment: The union did not protest several of Spectrum/ny1’s other debates, including a matchup between 19th Congressio­nal District opponents Rep. John Faso and Democrat Antonio Delgado that took place two days after Gillibrand bowed out. But it did manage to reduce the number of stations that could pester Cuomo with a debate invitation he didn’t want to accept.

There must be a better way. On the federal level, there is the Commission on Presidenti­al Debates, a wholly independen­t entity that takes it upon itself to organize presidenti­al and vicepresid­ential debates, which it has done every four years since 1988. It would be worthwhile to see a similar organizati­on formed on the state level, preferably before the 2020 election cycle revs up. Stock it with unimpeacha­ble public figures and trusted journalist­s, bring in media partners and set uniform protocols. And if the politician­s try to weasel out, call them on it.

The governor is correct to say that his debate with Molinaro with a mess. But suggesting that therefore all debates are worthless is like arguing that Randy Macho Man Savage and The Undertaker aren’t suitable ambassador­s of the ancient sport of Greco-roman wrestling.

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