Albany Times Union (Sunday)

Crowd-size experts scoff at city’s projection­s

Say “fuzzy math, fuzzier geography” at play for event

- By Michael R. Sisak Associated Press

New York Ryan Seacrest and Anderson Cooper will be there. Snoop Dogg, too.

But 1 or 2 million people in New York’s Times Square for New Year’s Eve? As Snoop would say, you must be sippin’ on gin and juice.

Crowd-size experts scoff at those mammoth figures — floated annually by city officials and event organizers — saying it’s impossible to squeeze that many of even the skinniest revelers into such a relatively small space.

The real Times Square ball drop crowd likely has fewer than 100,000 people, crowd science professor G. Keith Still said.

“Generally, people are overestima­ting crowd sizes by 10- to 100-fold,” said Still, who teaches crowd science at Manchester Metropolit­an University in England and trains police department­s on techniques to calculate crowd sizes.

The crowd estimates come from the New York City Police Department, according to the Times Square Alliance, which runs the ball drop.

In recent years, the department estimated that 2 million people had packed into Times Square. Mayor Bill de Blasio used a big number again Friday, saying the city expected “up to 2 million people in Times Square itself,” a bow-tieshaped zone running five blocks between Broadway and Seventh Avenue.

New York University professor Charles

Seife, a mathematic­ian and journalist who explored statistica­l manipulati­on in his book “Proofiness,” said the city has an interest in promoting a bigger number because it “helps cement the image of New York

City as the center of the universe at a certain date and time.”

He suggested fuzzy math and fuzzier geography were also at play.

“How do you count a participan­t in the Times Square ball drop?” Seife asked. “Is it everyone who can see the ball, or anyone squeezed into a bar in Manhattan?”

To actually fit 1 million revelers, the city would have to jam more than the equivalent of a sold-out Yankee Stadium on every block of Seventh Avenue between Times Square and Central Park — which starts about 15 blocks to the north.

Still and his colleagues perform detailed analyses when calculatin­g precise crowd totals. But even using simple techniques, like measuring Times Square on a map and running a few calculatio­ns, it’s clear the numbers don’t get anywhere near 1 million.

Times Square would hold about 51,000 people at a density of 3 people per square meter, Still said, or about 86,000 at 5 people per square meter. It might reach 120,000 if the crowd packed in at 7 people per square meter, but he said that density, involving people squished together front-to-back and shoulder-to-shoulder, is unlikely.

Those numbers don’t count people watching from hotel and office building windows or from penned-off areas farther away. They also don’t account for space taken up by stages, security apparatus and egress routes, where people would otherwise be able to stand.

New York’s crowd estimate has evolved over time. As late as 1998, the police department was estimating that roughly 500,000 people attended. But for the millennium bash at the close of 1999, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani predicted as many as 2 million.

At big events, an accurate crowd estimate is critical to public safety. The wrong number can leave cities devoting too many or too few resources to an event, Still said. But New York manages the throngs well, funneling revelers into penned off areas, so there’s no opportunit­y for overcrowdi­ng, and screening each person for weapons.

 ?? Associated Press file photo ?? Revelers celebrate the start of 2017 as confetti flies over New York’s Times Square. Year after year, people watching the celebratio­n are told they are watching a million people gathered in Times Square.
Associated Press file photo Revelers celebrate the start of 2017 as confetti flies over New York’s Times Square. Year after year, people watching the celebratio­n are told they are watching a million people gathered in Times Square.
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