Albany Times Union

Fall foliage favorite now out of service

Amtrak retires Great Dome car due to age, costly maintenanc­e

- By Eric Anderson

Amtrak’s Great Dome car, a regular feature during fall foliage season on the Adirondack between Albany and Montreal, has been retired.

The two-level passenger car with a glassed-in upper level stretching the length of the car was the last of a fleet of six originally built for the Great Northern Railway’s Empire Builder between Chicago and Seattle in the mid-1950s.

The Milwaukee Road operated its own fleet of 10 “Super Dome” cars that were similar in appearance, with the glassed-in upper level

also stretching the full length of the railroad car. They were used on the railroad’s Hiawatha passenger trains and later on such trains as the City of Denver. Those dome cars ended up with cruise lines or scenic railroads.

Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams on Friday told the Times Union that, “due to the age and expense of maintainin­g this vintage car, the Great Dome car will no longer operate as part of Amtrak’s fleet.”

The car is believed to be in storage at Amtrak’s Beech Grove repair shops in Indiana.

Gary Prophet, president of the Empire State Passengers Associatio­n, said news 0f the car’s retirement confirmed what he’d heard as rumors. “I’m very sad and disappoint­ed that they decided to retire it and not make the necessary repairs to bring it back into service — so passengers could enjoy it during the autumn season.”

He rode the Great Dome car himself several times, he said. Its windows, stretching to the top, “made the dome car very unique, and a huge benefit for passengers riding through the Adirondack­s.”

Amtrak now operates twolevel Superliner lounge cars with windows that stretch from just above the floor to wrap around part of the ceiling. Because of the cars’ height, they operate mainly between Chicago and destinatio­ns in the south and west.

Lower clearances on eastern routes prevent them from operating into New York City. It’s why the Great Dome car operated on the Adirondack only between Albany and Montreal.

Prophet hopes that Amtrak and New York state invest in some cars with larger windows,

he added.

He may get his wish. Amtrak spokeswoma­n Beth Toll last week told the Times Union that the passenger railroad has issued a request for proposals to replace aging locomotive­s and 40-yearold Amfleet coaches with new equipment by the early 2020s.

“While the specifics of the new equipment and their delivery timeline are still under developmen­t, Amtrak expects the new equipment to feature larger windows for viewing the worldclass Hudson River and Lake Champlain scenery between New York and Montreal, as well as improvemen­ts to restrooms, passageway­s between cars, climate control systems and other key components to maximize customer comfort on the route,” Toll said. ▶ eanderson@timesunion.com 518-454-5323

 ?? John Carl d’annibale / times union archive ?? toni renier, left, and Pamela Anderson, both of San diego, Calif., ride the historic Great dome car in 2008. the popular glassed-in car operated on the Adirondack between Albany and montreal.
John Carl d’annibale / times union archive toni renier, left, and Pamela Anderson, both of San diego, Calif., ride the historic Great dome car in 2008. the popular glassed-in car operated on the Adirondack between Albany and montreal.

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