Albany Times Union

Impeachmen­t heads into uncertain phase.

House Judiciary hearing may be more contentiou­s

- By Jennifer Haberkorn

The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday will hold its first impeachmen­t hearing, signifying a new — and unpredicta­ble — step in the Democrats’ inquiry into President Donald Trump.

The Judiciary Committee took control of the inquiry Tuesday evening after the House Intelligen­ce Committee voted to approve a report outlining the Democrats’ case that the president withheld military aid and a White House meeting from Ukraine while demanding that the country ’s government announce an investigat­ion into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son.

If the Intelligen­ce Committee, led by Chairman Adam B. Schiff, D-calif., was staid and serious during weeks of closed-door deposition­s and nine long days of public hearings, the Judiciary Committee is expected to be more rambunctio­us.

Its membership is far larger than the Intelligen­ce Committee and includes some of the most partisan Republican­s and Democrats in Congress.

Several of Trump’s strongest allies sit on the Republican side, including Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida, John Ratcliffe of Texas and Jim Jordan of Ohio, who was brief ly moved to the Intelligen­ce Committee. At the helm for the GOP is another Trump ally: Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia.

The Democrats are just as partisan: Nearly the entire Judiciary Committee supported an impeachmen­t inquiry during former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’S investigat­ion into Russian interferen­ce and before the president spoke with the new president of Ukraine.

That combinatio­n could give the Judiciary Committee hearings a level of bombast the public hasn’t seen so far. That poses some risks for Democrats because the proceeding­s could give Republican­s a lot of television time to muddy the Democrats’ presentati­on, pointing out f laws in a process that they view as unfair.

Republican­s are expected to be more aggressive than they were in the Intelligen­ce Committee hearings, hoping to knock Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., off his game. They are likely to force votes on procedural hurdles and hammer their defense of the president, outlined in a report released by Republican members of the Intelligen­ce Committee on Monday.

“It ’s a bunch of brawlers sometimes on the Judiciary Committee, so it should get pretty, pretty hot under the collar as we go along,” Rep. Andy Biggs, R-ariz., another Trump ally on the committee, said on “Fox News Sunday.” He argued that Democrats had not adhered to precedent on impeachmen­t, a view that “causes some rancor. And it should be much more feisty, I would say, than the Intel Committee was.”

Nadler’s allies insist he’ll be able to manage the process.

“I think that you’ll see Chairman Nadler is just not going to put up with nonsense,” said Rep. Karen Bass, D-calif., who also sits on the committee. “My Republican colleagues compete to be included in the Fox evening news clips. They are performing for an audience of one,” she added, referring to the president.

The Judiciary Committee is expected to hold at least two, but more likely three, hearings in the coming weeks, capped with a vote on whether to send impeachmen­t articles to the House f loor.

The spotlight in Wednesday’s hearing is expected to be more focused on the lawmakers than the witnesses. The panel will hear from a series of professors who will explain why the founders put impeachmen­t into the Constituti­on and what warrants removal from the White House. Democrats feel they need to make the case that Trump’s offenses warrant impeachmen­t.

Like the Intelligen­ce Committee hearings last month, the Judiciary Committee plans to have staff attorneys help conduct the first 45 minutes of questionin­g, followed by time for rank-and-file members. They are expected to have tightly prepared questions, similar to the way Democrats had prepared written questions when Mueller testified before the panel in July.

Nadler recently invited Trump and his law yers to participat­e in the process, an invitation they rebuffed, arguing that the process so far has been a sham and that the hearing was “purposely ” scheduled while Trump was in London for a NATO leaders meeting. But they left open the possibilit­y that they could enter the process in the coming weeks.

“It is too late to cure the profound procedural deficienci­es that have tainted this entire inquir y,” Pat Cipollone, the president ’s law yer, wrote in a letter to Nadler. “Neverthele­ss, if you are serious about conducting a fair process going forward, and in order to protect the rights and privileges of the president, we may consider participat­ing in future Judiciary Committee proceeding­s if you afford the administra­tion the ability to do so meaningful­ly.”

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