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Cohen testifies before grand jury in Trump probe

- By Michael R. Sisak

NEW YORK — Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen testified Monday before a Manhattan grand jury investigat­ing hush money payments made on the former president’s behalf.

A Trump loyalist turned adversary, Cohen spent around three hours answering questions in the secret proceeding. He is scheduled to return again for more testimony Wednesday, his lawyer said as the pair emerged from the courthouse.

“Michael has spent a long and productive afternoon answering all questions, all facts, and completely responsive,” said Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny Davis.

The testimony comes at a critical time, as the Manhattan district attorney’s office weighs whether to seek charges against Trump over payments made during his 2016 campaign to two women who alleged affairs or sexual encounters with him.

Before entering the courthouse for the session, Cohen, who orchestrat­ed those payoffs, said his goal was simply "to tell the truth,” dismissing a suggestion that he might be motivated by a desire to see Trump behind bars.

“This is not revenge," he said. "This is all about accountabi­lity. He needs to be held accountabl­e for his dirty deeds.”

Trump denies being involved with either of the women, the porn actor Stormy Daniels and model Karen Mcdougal.

Cohen has given prosecutor­s evidence, including voice recordings of conversati­ons he had with a lawyer for one of the women, as well as emails and text messages. He also has recordings of a conversati­on in which he and Trump spoke about an arrangemen­t to pay the other woman through the supermarke­t tabloid the National Enquirer.

Prosecutor­s appear to be looking at whether Trump committed crimes in how the payments were made or how they were accounted for internally at Trump’s company, the Trump Organizati­on.

One possible charge would be falsifying business records, a misdemeano­r unless prosecutor­s could prove it was done to conceal another crime. No former U.S. president has ever been charged with a crime.

Appearing Monday on ABC’S "Good Morning America,” Trump lawyer Joseph Tacopina said it is unlikely the former president will accept an invitation, extended by prosecutor­s last week, to testify before the grand jury.

“We have no plans on participat­ing in this proceeding,” Tacopina said. “It's a decision that needs to be made still. There's been no deadline set, so we'll wait and see.”

He characteri­zed Trump as a victim, saying he was pressured into making the payment to Daniels.

“This was a plain extortion and I don’t know since when we’ve decided to start prosecutin­g extortion victims," Tacopina said. "He’s denied — vehemently denied — this affair. But he had to pay money because there was going to be an allegation that was going to be publicly embarrassi­ng to him, regardless of the campaign.”

Daniels and the attorney who helped arrange the payment for her, Keith Davidson, have both denied extorting anyone.

Speaking briefly to reporters in Moline, Illinois, Trump called the investigat­ion “a big witch hunt.” Asked if he planned on testifying, he said: "I don't know. Nobody’s even asked me.”

Tacopina also wrote a letter to New York City's inspector general, saying prosecutor­s were trying to hamper Trump’s chances in the 2024 presidenti­al election. Tacopina asked the city's Department of Investigat­ion to probe a “patently political prosecutio­n.”

The Manhattan district attorney’s office declined to comment.

Trump’s lawyers have tried several times to get judges in New York and Florida to intervene in or halt investigat­ions of Trump and the Trump Organizati­on, arguing that they are politicall­y motivated. All of those attempts have failed.

Cohen served prison time after pleading guilty in 2018 to federal charges, including campaign finance violations, for arranging the payouts to Daniels and Mcdougal to keep them from going public. He has also been disbarred.

Trump’s lawyers could point to those factors in an attempt to undermine Cohen's credibilit­y, if the former president is charged and Cohen ends up testifying at trial.

Cohen has been meeting regularly with Manhattan prosecutor­s in recent weeks, including a daylong session Friday to prepare for his grand jury appearance.

The panel has been hearing evidence since January in what Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, a Democrat, has called the “next chapter” of his office’s yearslong Trump investigat­ion. But the hush money payments — perhaps the most salacious of the avenues of inquiry into Trump — are familiar ground.

Federal prosecutor­s and Bragg's predecesso­r in the DA'S office, Cyrus Vance Jr., each scrutinize­d the payments but didn't charge Trump.

Cohen declined to comment to reporters as he left the meeting, saying he’d be “taking a little bit of time now to stay silent and allow the DA build their case.”

Trump continued to lash out at the probe on social media on Friday, calling the case a “Scam, Injustice, Mockery, and Complete and Total Weaponizat­ion of Law Enforcemen­t in order to affect a Presidenti­al Election!”

Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 through his own company and was then reimbursed by Trump, whose company logged the reimbursem­ents as “legal expenses.”

Mcdougal’s $150,000 payment was made through the publisher of the National Enquirer, which squelched her story in a journalist­ically dubious practice known as “catch-and-kill.”

 ?? Spencer Platt / Getty Images ?? Former Donald Trump lawyer and loyalist Michael Cohen walks out of a Manhattan courthouse after testifying before a grand jury on Monday in New York City. The grand jury is investigat­ing payments Cohen arranged and made on behalf of the former president.
Spencer Platt / Getty Images Former Donald Trump lawyer and loyalist Michael Cohen walks out of a Manhattan courthouse after testifying before a grand jury on Monday in New York City. The grand jury is investigat­ing payments Cohen arranged and made on behalf of the former president.

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