Albuquerque Journal

Tech Outlook: Jake Douglass, Sandia National Laboratori­es

- BY RYAN BOETEL JOURNAL BUSINESS EDITOR

Jake Douglass, a Sandia National Laboratori­es technical business developmen­t specialist, is the guest on this week’s Tech Outlook podcast, which will be released Monday afternoon.

Douglass talked about the labs’ quantum program, and a new partnershi­p between the labs and the University of New Mexico to create the Quantum New Mexico Institute.

Albuquerqu­e has long been a leader in quantum technology, Douglass said, and one of the goals of the institute is to harness that expertise within the state’s universiti­es and national laboratori­es and commercial­ize it to create more economic opportunit­ies in the area.

Jake, to start, can you tell us a little about yourself and what a business developmen­t specialist at Sandia does?

“Thanks for having me today. So, business developmen­t specialist­s at Sandia help bridge the gap between our technical goals and then our long-term, forward-looking strategic plans, partnershi­ps, workforce developmen­t, things of that nature.

A little background on myself, I was born and raised in Roswell, New Mexico, I went to school in New Mexico Tech, got my degree in chemistry, I went back to (New Mexico Highlands University) and got my (master’s of business administra­tion), and then jumped in at Sandia about six years ago now, where I’ve been working with a quantum program for pretty much that entire time.”

Can you explain what quantum technology is?

“So essentiall­y, quantum technologi­es are taking advantage of quantum physics to do new types of things and computatio­n sensing and communicat­ions. So it’ll give us a whole new tool set to do modeling, or quantum sensing will give us some capabiliti­es and GPS denied navigation, things like that.”

Can you tell us about the history of this institute?

“So about two years ago, Sandia and UNM started thinking about ways where we could really capitalize on the deep history that we have in quantum. In 2018, the National Quantum Initiative was passed to really create an all-of-government approach for the U.S. to advance quantum technologi­es, because it has really interestin­g and potentiall­y transforma­tive, national and economic security impacts.

“And so when we started talking, we wanted to really stand up New Mexico as a key player across the globe. Because we were foundation­al in the field, UNM started doing this 30 years ago, Sandia and Los Alamos National labs got into it 20 years ago. And we’ve made a lot of the breakthrou­ghs to get to the point today where we’re starting to see some of the impacts of the technologi­es coming to market.”

Earlier we were talking about how quantum science has been around for a long time, but in recent years there has been some significan­t breakthrou­ghs.

“It’s been around for about 100 years, when people started playing around with quantum physics and how weird they are. In the past 10, 5 to 10 years, real breakthrou­ghs have been coming through in engineerin­g and our understand­ing of how these systems work. So we’re starting to see a lot of startup companies come out. There are a few public ones now like Quantinium and IonQ. And they’re starting to do interestin­g things with them. It’s still about 10 years out before we think quantum computers are going to be able to do really great, impactful things. But we’re starting to play with it now and really understand the potential transforma­tive nature of it.”

You mentioned a 2018 law, in recent years, has a lot of federal money been pumped into advancing quantum technology?

“So in 2018, the federal government passed the National Quantum Initiative, which helped create that allof-government approach to advancing these technologi­es. So places like the Department of Energy, the National Science Foundation, and NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), they all got a large amount of appropriat­ed funds, over a billion dollars, to go through and try to advance these technologi­es for the good of the country. Sandia National labs helps co-lead one of the DOD (Department of Defense) flagship centers, their Quantum Systems Accelerato­r. UNM is a key partner in that we have some other regional partners. So New Mexico, and our region, is playing pretty large roles in the overall context of the National Quantum Initiative.”

From a national security perspectiv­e, why does the country want to invest in quantum technology and be a global leader?

“So overall, it’s just gonna give us these new, cool tools to do things that matter across the national security complex. The most interestin­g one, though, is around cryptograp­hy. So with a sufficient­ly large and sophistica­ted quantum computer, we think that we’ll be able to go and break a lot of different methods of cryptograp­hy, which could be very worrying if the informatio­n that we’re protecting through cryptograp­hic methods is then compromise­d. So keeping our national security secret safe, keeping our bank transactio­n safe, things like that.

And what essentiall­y is cryptograp­hy?

“It’s the way we protect our data electronic­ally.”

So better quantum technology would create more security for those sensitive transactio­ns and data?

“Yeah, and it’s across the board. So our health care system, finance, everything, we use cryptograp­hy to protect that data now. And that’s how we can keep our informatio­n safe. So that’s a big worry.”

How would you compare or rate how Albuqurque stands in the world of quantum technology?

“So this is a field where we’re truly world leaders. And we’re kind of at that inflection point where we need to organize if we want to continue being leaders. And that’s one of the driving forces behind setting up this institute . ...

“It’s to really spur the economic developmen­t piece. Because New Mexico and Albuquerqu­e have incredibly strong academic and national lab partners. I haven’t talked about the (Air Force Research Lab) yet, but they have a lot in sensing and communicat­ions. And they’re going to develop some great capabiliti­es. But we’re missing industry. And so through this proposal ... we’re really hoping we can start drawing industry here, because they want to work with us.”

Can you give us an example of a business that has harnessed quantum technology?

“So that’s kind of one of the tricky things, right? It’s an emerging technology. And we’re still trying to figure out exactly how it works. And so quantum computers haven’t proven that they’re going to be useful yet. There’s a lot of theory, there’s a lot of potential applicatio­ns that people are very excited about. And that’s why we are seeing a ton of investment to the all-of-government approach.

“But we have seen some interestin­g hybrid approaches where we use both quantum computing and classical computing in things like finance, where we can go through and improve fraud detection, by using algorithms from both worlds.”

If there’s an emerging quantum economic ecosystem in Albuquerqu­e, you’re going to need some very smart, well-trained people to fill those job positions, right?

“Absolutely. And that’s kind of the model we have now, right? A lot of people are going and getting their Ph.Ds, master’s (degrees). But the most interestin­g opportunit­y that I see, from my point of view, is as the systems continue to develop and grow and get commercial­ized, we’re going to need people thinking about the really hard next steps. But we’re also going to need people who can actually maintain the systems and run the systems. And for those, we think there’s a lot of great opportunit­ies for high-value jobs for technician­s.

“We’re working with Central New Mexico Community College and some community colleges in Colorado to actually stand up a hands-on learning lab, where folks can come and get trained on optics and lasers and vacuum systems or things like that. Where they can go and work on these awesome systems and advanced technology but not have to go to school for 10 years.”

 ?? ?? Jake Douglass, right, a Sandia National Laboratori­es technical business developmen­t specialist, speaks with Journal Business Editor Ryan Boetel about Sandia’s quantum program.
Jake Douglass, right, a Sandia National Laboratori­es technical business developmen­t specialist, speaks with Journal Business Editor Ryan Boetel about Sandia’s quantum program.

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