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Trump’s ex-counsel ducks House hearing

- COMPILED BY DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE STAFF FROM WIRE REPORTS

WASHINGTON — Former White House counsel Donald McGahn was a noshow Tuesday at a House committee hearing, angering Democrats who are ramping up calls to start impeachmen­t proceeding­s against President Donald Trump despite continued resistance from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

During an opening statement, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., vowed that his panel would eventually hear McGahn’s testimony on allegation­s of obstructio­n of justice by Trump “even if we have to go to court to secure it.”

“We will not allow the president to block congressio­nal subpoenas, putting himself and his allies above the law,” Nadler said. “We will not allow the president to stop this investigat­ion, and nothing in these unjustifie­d and unjustifia­ble legal attacks will stop us from pressing

forward with our work on behalf of the American people. We will hold this president accountabl­e, one way or the other.”

Nadler’s remarks came three weeks after Attorney General William Barr declined to appear before the Judiciary Committee.

Tuesday’s hearing lasted 23 minutes, as Democrats moved to adjourn after Nadler and Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia, the committee’s top Republican member, had delivered opening statements.

Collins accused Democrats of being more interested in creating theater than conducting oversight of the Trump administra­tion.

“Cameras love a spectacle, and Democrats covet the chance to rant against this administra­tion,” Collins said.

Democrats declined to press for a vote to hold McGahn in contempt of Congress, but Nadler suggested the move could be taken soon if “he does not immediatel­y correct his mistake” of declining to appear.

The Judiciary Committee has already voted to recommend that the full House hold Barr in contempt for his defiance of a subpoena asking for special counsel Robert Mueller’s full report and underlying evidence.

Democratic leaders had been stalling on lodging the contempt citation to the floor of the full House but have not indicated they will accelerate a vote when they return in June from the Memorial Day recess.

The White House announced Monday that it would block McGahn from testifying.

Democrats hoped McGahn would become a star witness in their investigat­ion into whether Trump obstructed justice, given that the former White House counsel delivered critical testimony in several instances of potential obstructio­n by Trump detailed in Mueller’s report.

A 15-page legal opinion written by Assistant Attorney General Steven Engel argued that McGahn could not be compelled to testify before the Judiciary Committee, based on past Justice Department legal opinions regarding the president’s close advisers.

The memo said McGahn’s immunity from congressio­nal testimony was separate and broader than a claim of executive privilege.

During his remarks, Nadler asserted that case law is on the committee’s side and accused Trump of seeking to intimidate McGahn from appearing, calling that “not remotely acceptable.”

“When this committee issues a subpoena — even to a senior presidenti­al adviser — the witness must show up,” Nadler said. “Our subpoenas are not optional.”

Hours after the hearing, Nadler issued subpoenas for documents and testimony from Hope Hicks, the former White House communicat­ions director, and Annie Donaldson, McGahn’s chief of staff. There was no guarantee, though, that they would appear before Congress.

The committee, which voted to authorize the subpoenas weeks ago, is particular­ly interested in Donaldson, who took detailed notes of McGahn’s exchanges with the president.

The panel also believes that Hicks, a longtime confidant of Trump, likely knows details on several topics they are investigat­ing.

Separately, a federal judge on Monday rejected arguments from the president’s lawyers that the House Oversight Committee’s demands for the records from Trump’s accounting firm were overly broad and served no legitimate legislativ­e function.

Trump’s lawyers on Tuesday appealed the ruling.

DEMOCRATS MEETING

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has scheduled a Democratic caucus meeting for today to discuss updates on oversight and investigat­ions, according to two Democrats briefed on her plans who requested anonymity to discuss a meeting that has not been publicly announced. Members expect the meeting will include a discussion of whether to open an impeachmen­t inquiry against Trump.

Pelosi has long been an impeachmen­t skeptic and tried to tamp down impeachmen­t talk in her ranks as recently as last week by encouragin­g members to focus on their legislativ­e agenda.

On Tuesday, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said Trump was “conducting one of the biggest cover-ups of any administra­tion in the history of the United States,” but he stopped short of calling for an immediate impeachmen­t inquiry.

“I don’t think we’re there at this point in time,” Hoyer said.

“I don’t … think there’s any Democrat who probably wouldn’t in their gut say, ‘You know he’s done some things that probably justify impeachmen­t,’” Hoyer continued. “Having said that, and this is the important point, I think the majority of Democrats continue to believe that we need to continue to pursue the avenue that we’ve been on in trying to elicit informatio­n, testimony, review the Mueller report, review other items that have gone on. And if the facts lead us to a broader action, so be it.”

But calls for an impeachmen­t inquiry have escalated since the White House’s announceme­nt Monday that McGahn would not testify.

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., said she agrees that the court victory Monday was an encouragin­g sign. But she told reporters that “winding your way through the courts could take a lot of time.”

“We also know that this is something that the president has relied upon in his business dealings, that he can win in the courts because he can outlast those who are bringing lawsuits against him,” Waters said in explaining her support for opening an impeachmen­t inquiry. “So while I have a great appreciati­on for that ruling … I still think we should move forward.”

During a television appearance Tuesday morning, Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said that he and “a lot” of other Democrats on the Judiciary Committee were eager for an impeachmen­t inquiry because they had seen ample evidence of “high crimes” committed by Trump.

One Republican congressma­n, Justin Amash of Michigan, has also called for impeachmen­t proceeding­s. He said Tuesday that he thinks other GOP lawmakers should join him — but only after reading Mueller’s report carefully.

Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy dismissed Amash as out of step with House Republican­s and “out of step with America.” And Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said of Amash’s position, “I don’t think it’s going to be a trend-setting move.”

Some Democrats cautioned that beginning the impeachmen­t process would overshadow work on legislatio­n important to their constituen­ts.

“I believe in checks and balances and the constituti­onal

division of powers,” said Rep. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich. “But I also know that I get stopped in the grocery store constantly and what people are asking about is the price of health care and the price of prescripti­on drugs … I think the perception is that Washington is more focused on the checks and balances than they are on actually helping people’s pocketbook­s and their kids. And that’s a real problem.”

During private meetings Monday night, several members of Pelosi’s leadership team pressed her to begin an impeachmen­t inquiry, according to multiple officials in the rooms — an effort the speaker rebuffed each time.

Several hours later, Nadler met with Pelosi and made the case to start the inquiry, he later told his panel members on a call.

Pelosi declined to endorse the idea both times, according to the officials, who were either in the meetings or familiar with what happened in them.

She and Hoyer argued that such an inquiry would undercut other House investigat­ions — or that the idea was not supported by most other members in the caucus.

Informatio­n for this article was contribute­d by John Wagner, Rachael Bade, Mike DeBonis, Spencer Hsu, Josh Dawsey, Devlin Barrett and Carol D. Leonnig of The Washington Post; by Nicholas Fandos of

The New York Times; and by Mary Clare Jalonick, Lisa Mascaro, Laurie Kellman, Matthew Daly, Michael Balsamo, Jonathan Lemire, Eric Tucker and Mark Sherman of The Associated Press.

Some Democrats cautioned that beginning the impeachmen­t process would overshadow work on legislatio­n important to their constituen­ts.

 ?? The New York Times/ERIN SCHAFF ?? House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (left) and ranking GOP member Doug Collins confer during Tuesday’s hearing, which adjourned after 23 minutes with no witness to question.
The New York Times/ERIN SCHAFF House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (left) and ranking GOP member Doug Collins confer during Tuesday’s hearing, which adjourned after 23 minutes with no witness to question.
 ?? AP/PATRICK SEMANSKY ?? A chair in which former White House counsel Don McGahn was supposed to testify before the House Judiciary Committee sits empty Tuesday after McGahn was a no-show.
AP/PATRICK SEMANSKY A chair in which former White House counsel Don McGahn was supposed to testify before the House Judiciary Committee sits empty Tuesday after McGahn was a no-show.

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