Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Panels to zero in on Mueller report

Queries to special counsel to focus on Trump orders to aides

- MARY CLARE JALONICK

WASHINGTON — Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee who will question former special counsel Robert Mueller next week plan to focus on a narrow set of episodes laid out in his report.

The examples from the Mueller report include President Donald Trump’s directions to White House counsel Donald McGahn to have Mueller removed and, later, orders from Trump to McGahn to deny that happened. Democrats also will focus questionin­g on a series of meetings Trump had with former campaign manager Corey Lewandowsk­i in which the Republican president directed Lewandowsk­i to persuade then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit Mueller’s investigat­ion.

Mueller laid out several episodes of possible obstructio­n of justice by Trump and wrote that he could not exonerate the president on obstructio­n. Democratic aides say they believe the McGahn and Lewandowsk­i narratives, explained in detail in the 448-page report, are clear examples of such obstructio­n and will be easy to understand as lawmakers try to educate the American public on a report that they believe most people haven’t read. The aides requested anonymity to freely discuss members’ plans for questionin­g.

The House judiciary and intelligen­ce committees will question Mueller in back-to-back hearings Wednesday. The testimony had been scheduled for Wednesday this week but was delayed under a new deal struck with Mueller last week that would give him more time to prepare and give members more time for questionin­g. Still, time will be limited, with an expected three hours for the Judiciary Committee and two for the smaller Intelligen­ce Committee. Some members on the Judiciary panel could have fewer than the regular five minutes for questionin­g.

Besides the time restraints, Mueller is a reluctant witness. He had said he would prefer not to appear at all and has insisted he will stick only to the contents of the report.

So, to effectivel­y highlight what they see as the most damaging parts of the report, Democratic lawmakers said Thursday that they will limit the long speeches.

“Members just need to focus,” said Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley, a Democratic member of the intelligen­ce panel. “Nobody’s watching them. Keep it short, keep focused, listen to each other, work together. Make this as productive as possible.”

Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, predicted: “You will find little or no editoriali­zing or speechifyi­ng by the members. This is all about allowing special counsel Mueller to speak.”

Democrats on the committee said they have been working with committee staff members on which members will ask what. The staff members want to make sure that lawmakers ask targeted questions, such as on Trump’s directions to McGahn and Lewandowsk­i.

“It’s going to be fairly scripted,” said Washington Rep. Pramila Jayapal, another Democrat on the judiciary panel. “The main goal is to get Robert Mueller to say what Robert Mueller wrote in the Mueller report. And then get it on national TV, so people can hear him saying it.”

The Judiciary Committee aides said that they want lawmakers to take pieces of informatio­n in Mueller’s report and connect the dots for viewers. Besides the episodes with McGahn and Lewandowsk­i, they said lawmakers also will focus on the president’s conduct toward his former lawyer Michael Cohen and his former campaign manager Paul Manafort, both of whom faced federal charges as part of Mueller’s investigat­ion and are now in prison. The report looks at how Trump praised both men when he perceived they were on his side, contacting Cohen to tell him to “stay strong” and publicly praising Manafort for “refusing to break.”

Cohen eventually started cooperatin­g with the government, and Trump then publicly called him a “rat” and suggested his family members had committed crimes.

Democrats on the House intelligen­ce panel are expected to focus on the first volume of Mueller’s report, which details contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Mueller found that there was not enough evidence to establish a conspiracy between the two

Republican­s are preparing as well and are expected to focus more on that conclusion than the individual episodes detailed. The top Republican on the judiciary panel, Georgia Rep. Doug Collins, said his members will be asking questions that aim to confirm what is in the report.

“Frankly the American people have moved on,” Collins said. They “want to get it behind us.”

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