Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

UK law will protect kids online

- Interviewe­d by Frank Bajak. Edited for clarity and length.

Filmmaker Beeban Kidron, a member of Britain’s House of Lords, has been a driving force behind a new U.K. law that sets an industry-wide code of conduct for online services designed to shield the under-18 crowd from violence, pornograph­y and exploitati­on.

The so-called Age Appropriat­e Design Code is the first law of its kind. The tech sector is already reacting as a one-year transition expires on Sept 2. Kidron has combined lobbying in Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C. with research and advocacy through her non-profit 5Rights Foundation.

You had a profound realizatio­n while making the 2012 film “InRealLife,” about kids online, that set you on this course.

I saw that the internet was treating children as adults and the kids couldn’t cope. Pornograph­y and violence and unwanted contact were part of it. But it’s much more. The hostility, the fake news, the commercial­ization and commoditiz­ation of childhood were all a very reactionar­y and regressive force against the

notion of children and childhood.

How does the code bring about a safe place for kids to learn, explore and play?

It says children must have a higher bar of privacy and considerat­ion. So, for example, you must not reveal their exact location. You also can’t economical­ly exploit what you know about them (from surveillin­g their online activity). Some tech companies are already adapting. TikTok and Instagram have said they would stop direct messaging by unknown adults to children under the age of 16. YouTube introduced age verificati­on for adult content.

Facebook’s child-focused changes for Instagram — initially in the U.S., Britain, Australia, France and Japan — include narrowing the scope of targeted ads that teens receive. It says they will now only get ads based on their age, gender and location. Is that enough?

No, we want more. But I don’t think you can underestim­ate the huge shift that has occurred already. This is a very complex global industry and there will be many pieces of follow-on legislatio­n.

Facebook says it is going ahead with an Instagram for kids under 13 that won’t include ads, despite the objections of 44 U.S. state attorneys general. Is that OK with you?

No. I’ve told Facebook and a U.S. congressio­nal subcommitt­ee that I oppose Instagram for kids. It’s not that I don’t want kid-appropriat­e services. There aren’t enough of them. Kids need inventive and creative spaces to play and learn and socialize. And whilst the advances Facebook is making should be recognized, it has not proven itself a good babysitter.

What more should the industry do?

Online services need to get tougher across the board — halting direct messaging by unfamiliar adults, imposing age restrictio­ns on adult material and not surveillin­g children. We’re looking for high privacy by default as the industry norm.

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Beeban Kidron Member of the House of Lords United Kingdom

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